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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 687569" data-attributes="member: 5171">Black Omega,From what I've seen of Aikido, it can indeed be effective against a grappler, but it has the same learning curve that the rest of Aikido training possesses.  I've always thought of Aikido as a great second martial art, but I don't know that I'd steer a beginner in that direction.  Mileage may vary, and prodigies or people with natural affinities could shoot right on up the curve, but in general, the average Aikido student seems to take awhile to be able to apply his studies practically.Lannon, thanks for the clarification.  As for bad neighborhoods, incidentally, the last time I felt threatened was walking from seeing "Les Miz" to get to the train station in San Francisco.  Very few people drive to see shows in SF -- the city just doesn't have enough parking, and the train station lets out right next to the theater district.  There's a two-block stretch of bad neighborhood between the theater district and the train, and it's always interesting to try and walk that stretch with all the rich people wearing black leather (Note: Not rich. REALLY not rich.    We make enough to go to musicals, but we're there because we love the music, not for any see-and-be-seen garbage reason).Education and money alone wouldn't have removed the need to walk those two bad blocks, nor to walk them at night, since that's when the show let out.  Being smart enough to walk with the rest of the crowd helped, of course, and hey, in theory, one could be rich enough to either hire bodyguards or have a limo pick me up -- but in general, it's effectively a necessary hazard of going to see a musical in San Francisco.I've also run into trouble taking my wife shopping in San Francisco.  And going to an SF Writing convention in San Francisco.  Neither time resulted in physical attacks, although in one case it was me being obviously ready to fight if the need arose that made the person quit bugging my wife and leave.Now that I think about it, I should really just avoid San Francisco... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />-Tacky</blockquote>

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