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<blockquote data-quote="DDK" data-source="post: 687862" data-attributes="member: 6469"><p><strong>Re: Good restraint?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>You have absolutely no idea about what it's like to be in such a situation. You think that by pulling apart a few sentences in a few paragraphs you can diagnose and analyze the situation I was attempting to describe. The fact that you think a few sentences can in anyway describe the fear and anxiety created by a person harrassing you day and night for no other reason than that you are there shows just how naive and inexperienced you are.</p><p></p><p>What is worse is that you judge me based on those few sentences. You were not there, you did not have to face him every single time you left your room for almost two weeks. I couldn't wash dishes, use the stove or oven or get water without him there, in my face, harrassing me every single time. You have no idea what people like him are like, you think that logic and reason apply to these situations and that everything can be neatly explained. Well pal, they can't. People do violent things for no reason. The fact that he constantly escalated the encounters of his own volition without any logical reason didn't even remotely occur to you but then that's because you wouldn't know jack about people like him. I do. I've grown up with people like him around me. I know how things work. It's reality. People like him don't do things for logical reasons but they certainly are predictible. He was escalating each encounter like a test of how much I could tolerate until he felt quite happy in getting up in my face, blowing smoke and flicking cigarette butts at me. And he would've continued until he dominated me.</p><p></p><p>You have no idea the amount of restraint I had to tolerate this and not beat the absolute crap out of him when I knew I was more than capable of it. It's that restraint for which I went to martial arts predominantly in the first place. Collectively I've done about two years of formal training and about six of informal training involving friends and my own efforts. I'm an inherently violent person who gets into a rage very easily. I get excessive amounts of adrenline and endorphins pumping through me, so much that I get 'combat shakes' afterwards to the point of physical sickness. I've learned to control that and walk away in most instances and a lot of that has been through disciplining myself in martial arts training. That's a key word, discipline. All martial arts are a discipline, something that makes you move in a certain way and takes time and effort to learn also makes you think and act in a different manner because it makes you fully aware of just what you are capable of. I assure you that if it wasn't for the fact that I've learned just how badass I can be in a fight, through the discipline of training and self-training, I would be just a violent thug who WOULD act out of nothing more than emotional responses.</p><p></p><p>For almost two weeks he harrassed me and I walked away. But I wasn't about to let him keep on escalating the encounters until I was more than just a victim of harrassment, but rather a victim of violence. In this instance, I lost control and you're right, I should've walked away. But I'm almost positive that if I had stuck with martial arts training, that I would've because that is part of what it teaches. If I had been able to restrain myself, it's possible that I could've just called the police and the matter would've been dealt with. That's not how it happened, though, and later he came after me for the express purpose of killing me and he even brought a mate to make sure of it.</p><p></p><p>I know this type of person and the frustrating thing was that calling the police would've done exactly the same thing as threatening him ended up doing. However at least threatening him and showing him what I was capable of made him doubt his own ability in the following encounters. Something which ended up being crucial, I feel, in my ability to get him out of my room when he came at me with a knife.</p><p></p><p>But I doubt all of the above explanation will stop you from tearing my argument apart and evaluating it like you know what you're talking about. Because you'll look at this and think you now know what it was like to be harrangued day and night. To live with the fear that he was going to be out there and was targeting you with all his misplaced rage and aggression for no logical reason. To know that he was mentally deficient enough to be sucking on aerosol cans day and night and that you were his current favourite toy. To know that he might just have gotten out of prison for a violent crime (which it ended up he had been) and thus you were his potential next victim.</p><p></p><p>But then I doubt you care.</p><p></p><p>Until you've been in such a situation you have no point of reference to speak from and so all your arguments are, quite frankly, invalid. Until you've experienced such a situation your views are held up by nothing but fantasy and delusion, hence you don't live in the real world but one constructed of hypotheticals and illusions.</p><p></p><p>You're a posuer, looking for a fight on the net and yet preaching about the ills of fighting. Yet still you don't see how lame and ironic that is.</p><p></p><p>But then, like I said, I think you're just a troll and don't really care a whit about what's really being discussed or talked about here. In some ways, you're worse than the person I described above. At least he was doing it face to face and not behind the comfort of a screen and a keyboard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DDK, post: 687862, member: 6469"] [b]Re: Good restraint?[/b] You have absolutely no idea about what it's like to be in such a situation. You think that by pulling apart a few sentences in a few paragraphs you can diagnose and analyze the situation I was attempting to describe. The fact that you think a few sentences can in anyway describe the fear and anxiety created by a person harrassing you day and night for no other reason than that you are there shows just how naive and inexperienced you are. What is worse is that you judge me based on those few sentences. You were not there, you did not have to face him every single time you left your room for almost two weeks. I couldn't wash dishes, use the stove or oven or get water without him there, in my face, harrassing me every single time. You have no idea what people like him are like, you think that logic and reason apply to these situations and that everything can be neatly explained. Well pal, they can't. People do violent things for no reason. The fact that he constantly escalated the encounters of his own volition without any logical reason didn't even remotely occur to you but then that's because you wouldn't know jack about people like him. I do. I've grown up with people like him around me. I know how things work. It's reality. People like him don't do things for logical reasons but they certainly are predictible. He was escalating each encounter like a test of how much I could tolerate until he felt quite happy in getting up in my face, blowing smoke and flicking cigarette butts at me. And he would've continued until he dominated me. You have no idea the amount of restraint I had to tolerate this and not beat the absolute crap out of him when I knew I was more than capable of it. It's that restraint for which I went to martial arts predominantly in the first place. Collectively I've done about two years of formal training and about six of informal training involving friends and my own efforts. I'm an inherently violent person who gets into a rage very easily. I get excessive amounts of adrenline and endorphins pumping through me, so much that I get 'combat shakes' afterwards to the point of physical sickness. I've learned to control that and walk away in most instances and a lot of that has been through disciplining myself in martial arts training. That's a key word, discipline. All martial arts are a discipline, something that makes you move in a certain way and takes time and effort to learn also makes you think and act in a different manner because it makes you fully aware of just what you are capable of. I assure you that if it wasn't for the fact that I've learned just how badass I can be in a fight, through the discipline of training and self-training, I would be just a violent thug who WOULD act out of nothing more than emotional responses. For almost two weeks he harrassed me and I walked away. But I wasn't about to let him keep on escalating the encounters until I was more than just a victim of harrassment, but rather a victim of violence. In this instance, I lost control and you're right, I should've walked away. But I'm almost positive that if I had stuck with martial arts training, that I would've because that is part of what it teaches. If I had been able to restrain myself, it's possible that I could've just called the police and the matter would've been dealt with. That's not how it happened, though, and later he came after me for the express purpose of killing me and he even brought a mate to make sure of it. I know this type of person and the frustrating thing was that calling the police would've done exactly the same thing as threatening him ended up doing. However at least threatening him and showing him what I was capable of made him doubt his own ability in the following encounters. Something which ended up being crucial, I feel, in my ability to get him out of my room when he came at me with a knife. But I doubt all of the above explanation will stop you from tearing my argument apart and evaluating it like you know what you're talking about. Because you'll look at this and think you now know what it was like to be harrangued day and night. To live with the fear that he was going to be out there and was targeting you with all his misplaced rage and aggression for no logical reason. To know that he was mentally deficient enough to be sucking on aerosol cans day and night and that you were his current favourite toy. To know that he might just have gotten out of prison for a violent crime (which it ended up he had been) and thus you were his potential next victim. But then I doubt you care. Until you've been in such a situation you have no point of reference to speak from and so all your arguments are, quite frankly, invalid. Until you've experienced such a situation your views are held up by nothing but fantasy and delusion, hence you don't live in the real world but one constructed of hypotheticals and illusions. You're a posuer, looking for a fight on the net and yet preaching about the ills of fighting. Yet still you don't see how lame and ironic that is. But then, like I said, I think you're just a troll and don't really care a whit about what's really being discussed or talked about here. In some ways, you're worse than the person I described above. At least he was doing it face to face and not behind the comfort of a screen and a keyboard. [/QUOTE]
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