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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kafkonia" data-source="post: 3484069" data-attributes="member: 40261">Let me throw out another endorsement of GURPS. It handles generic in a way that d20 (being tied to the D&D paradigm) doesn't. If you want to play covert ops, martial arts action, cyberpunk, horror, sci-fi... It's got you covered. The one knock against the system has generally been that it falls apart at higher levels; I've not had the chance to play 4e but I believe they took some strides towards balancing that out.Also, they have some of the best sourcebooks you can find -- and many of them can be had for under $10 from <a href="http://www.warehouse23.com" target="_blank">www.warehouse23.com</a>. (Add in free shipping to Canada on orders over $80.00 and I'm already a repeat customer.) And these sourcebooks are useful even if you don't play GURPS -- there's a lot of great material, and the crunch is generally in real world numbers, readily adaptable.The version of GURPS Fantasy that came out for 3rd ed left a lot of fans cold, because it was emphatically not a generic fantasy book -- it was almost entirely devoted to a very distinct and flavourful world. That world now has its own hardback, GURPS Banestorm, and may be worth checking out for anyone interested in alternate worlds.On top of all of that, they've had some very interesting licenses over the years -- Andre Norton's Witch World, David Brin's Uplift, The Prisoner(!), and Wild Cards have all had sourcebooks; Discworld and Hellboy have both been "powered by GURPS" (standalone books with the core system included); and they have even licensed adaptations of Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Traveller, Conspiracy X, and the Call of Cthulhu/cyberpunk crossover Cthulhupunk.----On the opposite end of the power-spectrum for generic systems is the Hero System. Originally designed for the superhero RPG Champions, the system is generally seen to work better at high levels than low ones. With some of the crunchiest mechanics I've ever seen, it's perfect for a certain type of gamer -- and an unending headache for others. If you like arithmetic, or want to have almost complete control over powers and/or spells available ,definitely give the system a look.In addition to Champions, books have been released for martial arts (Ninja Hero), science fiction (Star Hero), horror (Horror Hero), fantasy (Fantasy Hero), pulp (Pulp Hero)... you get the idea, right? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Not all of these books have been put out for the newest edition, however, and the bread and butter for the system is Champions.----Closer to home, Masque of the Red Death from Art Haus is a d20 game, but it is set in a Victorian Earth and really only retains the mechanics, not the feel, of d20 (ie, the classes are all different, the power level is different, magic has a different feel, etc.) The only downside is that you really need several more books to run it (in addition to needing the PHB/DMG like all d20 books, some mechanics are covered in the Ravenloft PHB as well.) But I fell in love with the setting so much that I went out and bought the Ravenloft PHB (and DMG!) off eBay.</blockquote>

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