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Other than Close Bursts, is there an upside to Size Large?
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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5209473" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>This.</p><p></p><p>Expecting large monsters to be more powerful than their level makes them incorrectly leveled, meaning you have to add to their level to make them 'right.' Level, of course, is a tool for gauging the difficulty of a monster, so it must follow that progression, otherwise, level is not doing what it is supposed to do.</p><p></p><p>Moreover, you can't logically have the mindset 'Large creatures must always be higher level than PCs' because you fall into this trap:</p><p></p><p>Level 10 large monsters are not tough for level 10 players.</p><p>So make them level 14.</p><p>Now level 14 large monsters are not tough for level 14 players.</p><p>So make them level 21.</p><p>Now they aren't a challenge for level 21 players.</p><p>....</p><p>some time later</p><p>....</p><p>Now they're level 34.</p><p>Great, what do I toss against this level 6 party then?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The ONLY level you EVER compare a monster to is the level of the people you're running the game for. How a monster compares to the party is the only meaningful indicator of its appropriateness or challenge. And if a monster isn't the right power level for that party? Use a more powerful monster (either a different one, or level up the current one). </p><p></p><p>But is that level 22 monster a threat for your party? Well, it sure did when they were level 17! Maybe you should have used it then instead of wait until they caught up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5209473, member: 71571"] This. Expecting large monsters to be more powerful than their level makes them incorrectly leveled, meaning you have to add to their level to make them 'right.' Level, of course, is a tool for gauging the difficulty of a monster, so it must follow that progression, otherwise, level is not doing what it is supposed to do. Moreover, you can't logically have the mindset 'Large creatures must always be higher level than PCs' because you fall into this trap: Level 10 large monsters are not tough for level 10 players. So make them level 14. Now level 14 large monsters are not tough for level 14 players. So make them level 21. Now they aren't a challenge for level 21 players. .... some time later .... Now they're level 34. Great, what do I toss against this level 6 party then? The ONLY level you EVER compare a monster to is the level of the people you're running the game for. How a monster compares to the party is the only meaningful indicator of its appropriateness or challenge. And if a monster isn't the right power level for that party? Use a more powerful monster (either a different one, or level up the current one). But is that level 22 monster a threat for your party? Well, it sure did when they were level 17! Maybe you should have used it then instead of wait until they caught up. [/QUOTE]
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