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Other than Close Bursts, is there an upside to Size Large?
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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5210554" data-attributes="member: 43019"><p>As a suggestion, instead just make the monster an Elite.</p><p></p><p>Here's one (of many possible) template you can use if you want, even:</p><p></p><p><strong>Hulking Brute</strong></p><p>Large or larger Brute humanoid</p><p><strong>Saving Throws</strong> +2</p><p><strong>Action Point</strong> 1</p><p><strong>Hit Points </strong>+10 per level</p><p> <strong>Unstoppable</strong></p><p>Whenever this creature becomes subject to the slowed, immobilized, restrained, dazed, or stunned conditions, it may make a save against the condition, even if a save does not normally apply. If successful, the condition is removed.</p><p> <strong>Powers</strong></p><p><strong>M Grab (minor; at-will)</strong></p><p> Reach 2 (Huge 3, Gargantuan 4); Level + 3 vs Reflex; the target is pulled into this creature's space and grabbed (escape ends). This creature may grab up to two Medium or smaller targets at a time, and moves normally while carrying them, without provoking opportunity attacks from them.</p><p> <strong>M Hurl (standard; at-will)</strong></p><p>Grabbed target only; Level + 3 vs Fortitude; High Normal Damage* and the target slides 4 squares and is knocked prone. Any enemies adjacent to the target after the slide take 3 + 1/2 Level damage. </p><p><em>Miss:</em> Half damage and the target slides 2 squares. </p><p><em>Hit or Miss:</em> The target is no longer grabbed.</p><p> <strong>M Brain (standard; at-will)</strong></p><p>Grabbed target only; Level + 3 vs AC; High Normal Damage* and the target is dazed (save ends). </p><p><em>Failed Save:</em> the target falls prone. </p><p><em>Miss:</em> Half damage.</p><p> <strong>M Clap (standard; at-will)</strong></p><p>Requires two grabbed targets; Make two attack rolls and apply the higher roll to an attack on both targets; Level + 3 vs AC; High Limited Damage* and the target is dazed (save ends). </p><p><em>Miss:</em> Half damage. </p><p><em>Hit or Miss:</em> The target is knocked prone, slides into an adjacent square, and is no longer grabbed.</p><p> * per DMG p185</p><p> It'll end up 10 hp shy of a true elite brute of its level, and its damage output may be just a littly shy of where an elite should be unless it can get off a bunch of claps or has terrain it can use with Hurl. Easy fix is probably to use about one level higher than you might have otherwise been thinking. Or not worry about it. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Example:</p><p><img src="http://images.community.wizards.com/community.wizards.com/user/keithric/large/2df0fd74b50e505159b2af1eb6b1c3d3.png?v=126900" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keterys, post: 5210554, member: 43019"] As a suggestion, instead just make the monster an Elite. Here's one (of many possible) template you can use if you want, even: [B]Hulking Brute[/B] Large or larger Brute humanoid [B]Saving Throws[/B] +2 [B]Action Point[/B] 1 [B]Hit Points [/B]+10 per level [B]Unstoppable[/B] Whenever this creature becomes subject to the slowed, immobilized, restrained, dazed, or stunned conditions, it may make a save against the condition, even if a save does not normally apply. If successful, the condition is removed. [B]Powers M Grab (minor; at-will)[/B] Reach 2 (Huge 3, Gargantuan 4); Level + 3 vs Reflex; the target is pulled into this creature's space and grabbed (escape ends). This creature may grab up to two Medium or smaller targets at a time, and moves normally while carrying them, without provoking opportunity attacks from them. [B]M Hurl (standard; at-will)[/B] Grabbed target only; Level + 3 vs Fortitude; High Normal Damage* and the target slides 4 squares and is knocked prone. Any enemies adjacent to the target after the slide take 3 + 1/2 Level damage. [I]Miss:[/I] Half damage and the target slides 2 squares. [I]Hit or Miss:[/I] The target is no longer grabbed. [B]M Brain (standard; at-will)[/B] Grabbed target only; Level + 3 vs AC; High Normal Damage* and the target is dazed (save ends). [I]Failed Save:[/I] the target falls prone. [I]Miss:[/I] Half damage. [B]M Clap (standard; at-will)[/B] Requires two grabbed targets; Make two attack rolls and apply the higher roll to an attack on both targets; Level + 3 vs AC; High Limited Damage* and the target is dazed (save ends). [I]Miss:[/I] Half damage. [I]Hit or Miss:[/I] The target is knocked prone, slides into an adjacent square, and is no longer grabbed. * per DMG p185 It'll end up 10 hp shy of a true elite brute of its level, and its damage output may be just a littly shy of where an elite should be unless it can get off a bunch of claps or has terrain it can use with Hurl. Easy fix is probably to use about one level higher than you might have otherwise been thinking. Or not worry about it. Example: [IMG]http://images.community.wizards.com/community.wizards.com/user/keithric/large/2df0fd74b50e505159b2af1eb6b1c3d3.png?v=126900[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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