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Other than "It's not made by WotC", what's the elevator pitch for Tales of the Valiant?
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<blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Olson" data-source="post: 9766280" data-attributes="member: 6988941"><p>I haven't bought, played, or more than thumbed through a bookstore copy of Tales of the Valiant, but to me the issue is that it seems like it's mostly just 5e with the non-SRD elements getting their serial numbers filed off and some very small and conservative improvements. And, to be clear, that would exactly make it my jam if I didn't already have the 5e materials and if I had a group of people wanting to buy and play a barely different version of 5e which is obscure to anyone not hyper-plugged-in to the hobby. But at this juncture it is just so much easier to pitch people playing the 2014 5e they already own, or for me to bend a little and be a little unhappy playing 2024 D&D.</p><p></p><p>I really appreciate that this game exists, but I suspect its real heyday will come if it keeps chugging along after WotC eventually either iterates the 5e system to be unrecognizeable or forsakes it entirely, or just figures out new and exciting ways to alienate their customer base.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benjamin Olson, post: 9766280, member: 6988941"] I haven't bought, played, or more than thumbed through a bookstore copy of Tales of the Valiant, but to me the issue is that it seems like it's mostly just 5e with the non-SRD elements getting their serial numbers filed off and some very small and conservative improvements. And, to be clear, that would exactly make it my jam if I didn't already have the 5e materials and if I had a group of people wanting to buy and play a barely different version of 5e which is obscure to anyone not hyper-plugged-in to the hobby. But at this juncture it is just so much easier to pitch people playing the 2014 5e they already own, or for me to bend a little and be a little unhappy playing 2024 D&D. I really appreciate that this game exists, but I suspect its real heyday will come if it keeps chugging along after WotC eventually either iterates the 5e system to be unrecognizeable or forsakes it entirely, or just figures out new and exciting ways to alienate their customer base. [/QUOTE]
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