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<blockquote data-quote="ryryguy" data-source="post: 5327439" data-attributes="member: 64945"><p>Sorry to be slow to answer the summons...</p><p></p><p>Regarding the character sheet issue, if it's kept flexible enough, people who like to use the wiki style (and have already invested a lot of effort there) could simply put links to the wiki pages in the character info sections. This would still be a nice gain in organization to have all those links in one convenient place for the DM and other players.</p><p></p><p>We also use little spoiler "ministats" blocks like the following:</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Ingot stat block]<u><strong>Ingot</strong></u>- Neuter Warforged Cleric 5</p><p>Passive Perception: 15, Passive Insight: 15</p><p>AC:20, Fort:17, Reflex:15, Will:19 -- Speed:5</p><p>HP:<span style="color: green">40/color]+5/47, Bloodied:23, Surge Value:11, Surges left: 8/9</span></p><p><span style="color: green">Initiative +1</span></p><p><span style="color: green">Action Points: 0, Daily Item Uses: Used, Second Wind: Not Used</span></p><p><span style="color: green">Powers: <span style="color: Green">Sacred Flame</span>, <span style="color: green">Righteous Brand</span>, </span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="color: red">Healing Word(x2)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="color: red"><s>Healing Strike</s></span>, <span style="color: red">Split the Sky</span>, <span style="color: red"><s>Warforged Resolve</s></span>, <span style="color: red"><s>Channel Divinity (Divine Fortune/Turn Undead)</s></span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="color: gray">Avenging Flame</span>, <span style="color: gray">Shield of Faith</span>, <span style="color: gray">Hallowed Advance</span></span></p><p><span style="color: green"><span style="color: red">Acidic Fullblade</span>, <span style="color: gray"><s>Acidic Fullblade</s></span>, <span style="color: gray">Flame Bracers</span></span></p><p><span style="color: green">[/sblock]</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">In addition to a summary, they also track current status - note the crossed out powers, indicating they are spent. A form that could be used to display this would be awesome - typing out and deleting those little {s}{/s} are a pain. (Tracking used powers is a little bit D&D specific but might be useful for other games... and if we're talking a simple template, having some D&D specific options including color to implement power types might be cheap enough to be worth the effort?)</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">This kind of summary changes frequently and there's no need to track history, so there's no need to keep it on a wiki.</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">Also:</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">I second these items from pneumatik:</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">This is another thing that would be extremely useful. It might be fine just to have a tab in that campaign manager page from the mockup with freeform text entry... a more structured form might be nice too, but not necessary.</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">In the living world games judges have to approve the rewards. That's probably part of the desire to have "bookmarks" of specific posts - we place links to the judges "I approve" posts on character sheets for judges to check when reviewing a character. So, a super feature would be to link rewards back to characters somehow - I imagine this would be useful even in non-judged games. A double super feature would also allow optional judge review of each entry - basically an "I approve" checkbox, with appropriate permissions. That would actually be a significant step towards no longer needing the wiki for tracking.</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">(Not sure how all this stuff gets implemented under the hood, but the idea is having a rewards table, with one record for each reward. Boolean field in this table is "judge approved", with ability to set the default at campaign level, so a non judged game just defaults to "true" and it's effectively ignored. Character records contain references to rewards records, from both the present and past campaigns. Probably one-to-one relationship would be fine, meaning when awarding XP to a group of 5, you have 5 separate records, but many-to-one would be a bit slicker. A final slick feature would be having a numeric field with an associated tag such as "XP" or "GP", and auto-sum the values per character per tag to feed running totals back to the character sheet!)</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">Would be awesome! In fact I already use BBCeditor to do this for longer posts, but it's not the best tool, because it doesn't speak all the same BBCode that enworld uses. Having one built in, that uses enworld's own message editor, obviously would not have that problem!</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ryryguy, post: 5327439, member: 64945"] Sorry to be slow to answer the summons... Regarding the character sheet issue, if it's kept flexible enough, people who like to use the wiki style (and have already invested a lot of effort there) could simply put links to the wiki pages in the character info sections. This would still be a nice gain in organization to have all those links in one convenient place for the DM and other players. We also use little spoiler "ministats" blocks like the following: [sblock=Ingot stat block][U][B]Ingot[/B][/U]- Neuter Warforged Cleric 5 Passive Perception: 15, Passive Insight: 15 AC:20, Fort:17, Reflex:15, Will:19 -- Speed:5 HP:[color=green]40/color]+5/47, Bloodied:23, Surge Value:11, Surges left: 8/9 Initiative +1 Action Points: 0, Daily Item Uses: Used, Second Wind: Not Used Powers: [color=Green]Sacred Flame[/color], [color=green]Righteous Brand[/color], [color=red]Healing Word(x2)[/color] [color=red][s]Healing Strike[/s][/color], [color=red]Split the Sky[/color], [color=red][s]Warforged Resolve[/s][/color], [color=red][s]Channel Divinity (Divine Fortune/Turn Undead)[/s][/color] [color=gray]Avenging Flame[/color], [color=gray]Shield of Faith[/color], [color=gray]Hallowed Advance[/color] [color=red]Acidic Fullblade[/color], [color=gray][s]Acidic Fullblade[/s][/color], [color=gray]Flame Bracers[/color] [/sblock] In addition to a summary, they also track current status - note the crossed out powers, indicating they are spent. A form that could be used to display this would be awesome - typing out and deleting those little {s}{/s} are a pain. (Tracking used powers is a little bit D&D specific but might be useful for other games... and if we're talking a simple template, having some D&D specific options including color to implement power types might be cheap enough to be worth the effort?) This kind of summary changes frequently and there's no need to track history, so there's no need to keep it on a wiki. Also: I second these items from pneumatik: This is another thing that would be extremely useful. It might be fine just to have a tab in that campaign manager page from the mockup with freeform text entry... a more structured form might be nice too, but not necessary. In the living world games judges have to approve the rewards. That's probably part of the desire to have "bookmarks" of specific posts - we place links to the judges "I approve" posts on character sheets for judges to check when reviewing a character. So, a super feature would be to link rewards back to characters somehow - I imagine this would be useful even in non-judged games. A double super feature would also allow optional judge review of each entry - basically an "I approve" checkbox, with appropriate permissions. That would actually be a significant step towards no longer needing the wiki for tracking. (Not sure how all this stuff gets implemented under the hood, but the idea is having a rewards table, with one record for each reward. Boolean field in this table is "judge approved", with ability to set the default at campaign level, so a non judged game just defaults to "true" and it's effectively ignored. Character records contain references to rewards records, from both the present and past campaigns. Probably one-to-one relationship would be fine, meaning when awarding XP to a group of 5, you have 5 separate records, but many-to-one would be a bit slicker. A final slick feature would be having a numeric field with an associated tag such as "XP" or "GP", and auto-sum the values per character per tag to feed running totals back to the character sheet!) Would be awesome! In fact I already use BBCeditor to do this for longer posts, but it's not the best tool, because it doesn't speak all the same BBCode that enworld uses. Having one built in, that uses enworld's own message editor, obviously would not have that problem![/color] [/QUOTE]
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