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<blockquote data-quote="FreeTheSlaves" data-source="post: 2492318" data-attributes="member: 9952">Here is some help if you really want to get gritty with the maths&nbsp; (Courtesy of 'Nail')Layout is the following: A = P{D[1+Pc(Mc-1)] + Db}For bonus critical dice I insert: +Bd[Pc(Mc-1)] after the Db &amp; before the closing }If the chance to hit is different to the chance to confirm the critical use: A = P{D[1+(Pt/P)Pc(M-1)]+Db}where A = average damage per attackP = Probability to hit, as a fractionD = average weapon damage plus Str, Magic, etcPc = Probability to Threaten, as a fractionMc= Critical MultiplierDb = Bonus Damage dice that are not multiplied by a confirmed criticalBd = Bonus die average damage that only occurs on confirmed criticalsE.g. 8th level fighter (ab+14/+9 vs AC20).Vanilla Longsword7.0125 = 0.75{8.5[1+0.1(2-1)]}4.675 = 0.50{8.5[1+0.1(2-1)]}11.6875****Just run the 2 sets of numbers for the same base character to see which is better; a rule of thumb is that the average damage needs to be 20+ with a martial weapon for improved critical start being better than the flat +2.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FreeTheSlaves, post: 2492318, member: 9952"] Here is some help if you really want to get gritty with the maths (Courtesy of 'Nail') [SIZE=1] Layout is the following: A = P{D[1+Pc(Mc-1)] + Db} For bonus critical dice I insert: +Bd[Pc(Mc-1)] after the Db & before the closing } If the chance to hit is different to the chance to confirm the critical use: A = P{D[1+(Pt/P)Pc(M-1)]+Db} where A = average damage per attack P = Probability to hit, as a fraction D = average weapon damage plus Str, Magic, etc Pc = Probability to Threaten, as a fraction Mc= Critical Multiplier Db = Bonus Damage dice that are not multiplied by a confirmed critical Bd = Bonus die average damage that only occurs on confirmed criticals[/SIZE] E.g. 8th level fighter (ab+14/+9 vs AC20). Vanilla Longsword 7.0125 = 0.75{8.5[1+0.1(2-1)]} 4.675 = 0.50{8.5[1+0.1(2-1)]} 11.6875 **** Just run the 2 sets of numbers for the same base character to see which is better; a rule of thumb is that the average damage needs to be 20+ with a martial weapon for improved critical start being better than the flat +2. [/QUOTE]

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