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<blockquote data-quote="candidus_cogitens" data-source="post: 1275205" data-attributes="member: 770">Yes, I should have explained that the reason some sort of consequence is necessary is that I want to make out-of-body travel much more common than the Astral Projection spell.&nbsp; That spell is, and should remain, something special.&nbsp; I want normal, low-level characters to have opportunities to experience the spriti world, but I want the dangers to be real.&nbsp; I don't want them to just go out there hoping to get lucky and win some XP, assuring themselves that if they get smacked, they'll just return safely to their regular bodies.I like the idea of Wisdom damage.&nbsp; That would work nicely with another idea I had which was that there would be a risk of partial insanity.&nbsp; Aaron's approach is also interesting . . . perhaps simpler.&nbsp; Just create a creature that would create the threat, rather than creating a game mechanic.&nbsp; Dan mentioned level-drain, which might be the perfect kind of threat for my campaign, since I do not want the threat to be as severe as a risk of permanent death.&nbsp; I could just fill the spirit-world with creatures that drain levels.&nbsp; This would be enough to make them fear spiritworld travel, but not so much of a threat that I could not in good conscience levy it against them if they mustered the courage to step out of the material world (which I want them to do).Thanks for the ideas.&nbsp; More would be welcome.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="candidus_cogitens, post: 1275205, member: 770"] Yes, I should have explained that the reason some sort of consequence is necessary is that I want to make out-of-body travel much more common than the Astral Projection spell. That spell is, and should remain, something special. I want normal, low-level characters to have opportunities to experience the spriti world, but I want the dangers to be real. I don't want them to just go out there hoping to get lucky and win some XP, assuring themselves that if they get smacked, they'll just return safely to their regular bodies. I like the idea of Wisdom damage. That would work nicely with another idea I had which was that there would be a risk of partial insanity. Aaron's approach is also interesting . . . perhaps simpler. Just create a creature that would create the threat, rather than creating a game mechanic. Dan mentioned level-drain, which might be the perfect kind of threat for my campaign, since I do not want the threat to be as severe as a risk of permanent death. I could just fill the spirit-world with creatures that drain levels. This would be enough to make them fear spiritworld travel, but not so much of a threat that I could not in good conscience levy it against them if they mustered the courage to step out of the material world (which I want them to do). Thanks for the ideas. More would be welcome. [/QUOTE]

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