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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 5727350" data-attributes="member: 29252">If done willy-nilly, yes.You see, the spells you generally cast out of combat are done because they meet one of the following criteria:1) They have an immediate effect not particularly applicable to combat (e.g., Teleport, Cure spells, the assorted fix-it spells, Knock, Make Whole, et cetera).&nbsp; 2) They have an effect on combat statistics, but a long-enough duration that you can cast them beforehand without overly much difficulty (Mage Armor, Greater Magic Weapon, Magic Vestments, Heroes' Feast, Endure Elements, and so on).3) They have a very long (or Permanent, or Instant) duration already.Basically, any spell you cast where you don't much care what the casting time is because it's not something you need to do in the middle of a fight.&nbsp; Anything that already has a ten minutes/level or longer duration is cast out of combat.&nbsp; The low-level healing spells are cast out of combat.&nbsp; Travel spells are usually cast out of combat.&nbsp; Utility spells are usually cast out of combat.&nbsp; Any of these?&nbsp; If you them and make them lower-level versions of themselves by adding casting time... you've basically just given the caster a low-expense (not free - spell research has an expense associated) upgrade that's fairly significant.&nbsp; Casters are already strong enough.&nbsp; Likewise, if you take a combat buff (call it minutes/level or less) and give it an increased casting time to justify making it a 10 minutes/level duration spell of the same level, and you've just increased the odds that people will be buffed to the gills - as now that Shield spell will likely last three or four encounters, the Fighter has a lot less need for those +2 Gauntlets of Ogre Strength when he can get a +4 from the Wizard that'll last all day, and so on.&nbsp; Again: You've basically just given the caster a low-expense upgrade that's fairly significant.&nbsp; Casters are already strong enough.&nbsp; They don't need the boost.Now, a ten minute casting time on Fireball?&nbsp; It'll probably see use a few times in exactly the right campaign.&nbsp; Otherwise, it's basically useless.&nbsp; Spells that are almost always going to be used in combat as-is are not going to be gamebreaking if you drop them a level, give them a ten-minute casting time, and don't make any further changes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 5727350, member: 29252"] If done willy-nilly, yes. You see, the spells you generally cast out of combat are done because they meet one of the following criteria: 1) They have an immediate effect not particularly applicable to combat (e.g., Teleport, Cure spells, the assorted fix-it spells, Knock, Make Whole, et cetera). 2) They have an effect on combat statistics, but a long-enough duration that you can cast them beforehand without overly much difficulty (Mage Armor, Greater Magic Weapon, Magic Vestments, Heroes' Feast, Endure Elements, and so on). 3) They have a very long (or Permanent, or Instant) duration already. Basically, any spell you cast where you don't much care what the casting time is because it's not something you need to do in the middle of a fight. Anything that already has a ten minutes/level or longer duration is cast out of combat. The low-level healing spells are cast out of combat. Travel spells are usually cast out of combat. Utility spells are usually cast out of combat. Any of these? If you them and make them lower-level versions of themselves by adding casting time... you've basically just given the caster a low-expense (not free - spell research has an expense associated) upgrade that's fairly significant. Casters are already strong enough. Likewise, if you take a combat buff (call it minutes/level or less) and give it an increased casting time to justify making it a 10 minutes/level duration spell of the same level, and you've just increased the odds that people will be buffed to the gills - as now that Shield spell will likely last three or four encounters, the Fighter has a lot less need for those +2 Gauntlets of Ogre Strength when he can get a +4 from the Wizard that'll last all day, and so on. Again: You've basically just given the caster a low-expense upgrade that's fairly significant. Casters are already strong enough. They don't need the boost. Now, a ten minute casting time on Fireball? It'll probably see use a few times in exactly the right campaign. Otherwise, it's basically useless. Spells that are almost always going to be used in combat as-is are not going to be gamebreaking if you drop them a level, give them a ten-minute casting time, and don't make any further changes. [/QUOTE]

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