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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 6330853" data-attributes="member: 6688277">If you would like a perfect balance, you would need to modify the system or play a different game. Throughout the 2-year playtest one could easily see which direction they were heading, certainly one could based on the last playtest packet. So the "basic" playstyle is certainly not new to anyone here. The balance you seek with your numbers, suggests you might need to limit the spells a caster gains, perhaps even remove some of the more contentious ones (invisibility, fly...etc) and then see about curbing some other special features until your numbers are in harmony with what feels right for you and your group. But, I ask, before you go ahead and do all that - have you actually tested the system by playing it for 3-4 sessions to see what the player of the fighter in the group actually says or how the group feels about the games inherent "designed-balance" or is this solely based on a cold read-through of the rules?Our experience has been that everyone in the group feels like they have contributed equally and everyone is essential, but that is our experience, I certainly cannot argue if your table has yielded different results.</blockquote>