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<blockquote data-quote="Blackbrrd" data-source="post: 6330902" data-attributes="member: 63962">I think you are right. The OP has, in my opinion, overstated the value of spells/rituals and understated the value of skills. The calculations are also done at level 20, if they had been done at level 1, the story would have been quite different. How &quot;broken&quot; this is really relies on what level range you are playing. Personally, I enjoy level 3-7 the most. In that range the &quot;problem&quot; is much less pronouncedAnyway, it's what I more or less assume from D&amp;D. You don't pick a fighter for his out-of-combat utility. If you want to play a tough in-your-face type of character, but with utility, you will probably end up doing some multiclassing. Will have to wait for the PHB to get this.4e reduced this &quot;broken-ness&quot;, but it also made the game much duller in many players opinion. That 5e hasn't gone the same route is something I applaud. D&amp;D isn't a competition, it's a team game and usually, the different characters help each other out a lot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blackbrrd, post: 6330902, member: 63962"] I think you are right. The OP has, in my opinion, overstated the value of spells/rituals and understated the value of skills. The calculations are also done at level 20, if they had been done at level 1, the story would have been quite different. How "broken" this is really relies on what level range you are playing. Personally, I enjoy level 3-7 the most. In that range the "problem" is much less pronounced Anyway, it's what I more or less assume from D&D. You don't pick a fighter for his out-of-combat utility. If you want to play a tough in-your-face type of character, but with utility, you will probably end up doing some multiclassing. Will have to wait for the PHB to get this. 4e reduced this "broken-ness", but it also made the game much duller in many players opinion. That 5e hasn't gone the same route is something I applaud. D&D isn't a competition, it's a team game and usually, the different characters help each other out a lot. [/QUOTE]

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