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<blockquote data-quote="CanadienneBacon" data-source="post: 6853391" data-attributes="member: 11146">And a ruling you shall have.&nbsp; My idea that a skill check was necessary was merely a holdover thought from 3.x.&nbsp; I still have a hard time rooting out old knowledge; it tends to slip in when I'm not actively thinking things through.&nbsp; Or when I post on the fly at work, as was the case on Friday.&nbsp; I've since then had a look at PHB 182, which provides, &quot;[w]hile climbing, or swimming, each foot of movement costs 1 extra foot (2 extra feet in difficult terrain), unless a creature has a climbing or swimming speed.&nbsp; At the DM's option, climbing a slippery vertical surface or one with few handholds requires a successful Strength (Athletics) check.&quot;I added the bold for emphasis, because it's relevant here.&nbsp; I've been imagining, and indeed expressly stated in the IC, that there are lots of foot- and handholds on the ledge face.&nbsp; So the ruling in this instance really needs to be that no Athletics check shall be required.&nbsp; Brinn (or anyone desiring to climb the ledge) simply needs to expend 30' of movement to scale the wall to attain the ledge.&nbsp; Thanks, all, for the opportunity to refresh and clarify.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CanadienneBacon, post: 6853391, member: 11146"] And a ruling you shall have. My idea that a skill check was necessary was merely a holdover thought from 3.x. I still have a hard time rooting out old knowledge; it tends to slip in when I'm not actively thinking things through. Or when I post on the fly at work, as was the case on Friday. I've since then had a look at PHB 182, which provides, "[w]hile climbing, or swimming, each foot of movement costs 1 extra foot (2 extra feet in difficult terrain), unless a creature has a climbing or swimming speed. At the DM's option, climbing a slippery vertical surface or one with [b]few handholds[/b] requires a successful Strength (Athletics) check." I added the bold for emphasis, because it's relevant here. I've been imagining, and indeed expressly stated in the IC, that there are lots of foot- and handholds on the ledge face. So the ruling in this instance really needs to be that no Athletics check shall be required. Brinn (or anyone desiring to climb the ledge) simply needs to expend 30' of movement to scale the wall to attain the ledge. Thanks, all, for the opportunity to refresh and clarify. [/QUOTE]

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