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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 913483" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p>But let us not forget, those are (a) thematic to each other, and (b) spread out more than the mostly-front-loaded "three bonus feats" the Rangers get now (Amdi and 2WFight at 1st, ImpCrit at 8th).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, you're incorrect here; Rangers <em>already</em> have Animal Companions ... having an animal companion is a direct result of beign able to cast Animal Friendship. Ranger animal companions are simply lesser than druid ACs, because Rangers have half as many caster levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it doesn't replace a skill. It shifts all the uses of "Animal Empathy" into the skill "Handle Animal"; rangers will still need ranks in a skill to use the benefits, those ranks will simply <em>also</em> make them able to CARE for the animal, as well as make nicey-nice with it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet, many of the abilities that cause people to take one (and <strong>only</strong> one) level of ranger, ar ebeing spread out ... so there's always a reason NOT to multiclass out of ranger, unlike presently.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I perhaps agree that 4+ for skills owuld have been better ... even 5+ (does anyone know why 3E seems stuck on even numbers of base skill points?). However, levels 1 and 2 of ranger gives you (with a 10 INT) 12 skill points and one feat. The same levels of FIGHTER, OTOH, give you 4 skill points and TWO feats.</p><p></p><p>Are 8 skill points REALLY worth more than one feat, in EVERY situation?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree. Rogues, IME, aren't truly selected for the skill points; it's the sneaking and sneak-<strong>attacking</strong> that's the primary draw to that class. Fighters, OTOH, will, in the long run, consistently outperform Rangers in terms of sheer general melee "oomf".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 913483, member: 6875"] But let us not forget, those are (a) thematic to each other, and (b) spread out more than the mostly-front-loaded "three bonus feats" the Rangers get now (Amdi and 2WFight at 1st, ImpCrit at 8th). Actually, you're incorrect here; Rangers [i]already[/i] have Animal Companions ... having an animal companion is a direct result of beign able to cast Animal Friendship. Ranger animal companions are simply lesser than druid ACs, because Rangers have half as many caster levels. No, it doesn't replace a skill. It shifts all the uses of "Animal Empathy" into the skill "Handle Animal"; rangers will still need ranks in a skill to use the benefits, those ranks will simply [i]also[/i] make them able to CARE for the animal, as well as make nicey-nice with it. Yet, many of the abilities that cause people to take one (and [b]only[/b] one) level of ranger, ar ebeing spread out ... so there's always a reason NOT to multiclass out of ranger, unlike presently. I perhaps agree that 4+ for skills owuld have been better ... even 5+ (does anyone know why 3E seems stuck on even numbers of base skill points?). However, levels 1 and 2 of ranger gives you (with a 10 INT) 12 skill points and one feat. The same levels of FIGHTER, OTOH, give you 4 skill points and TWO feats. Are 8 skill points REALLY worth more than one feat, in EVERY situation? I disagree. Rogues, IME, aren't truly selected for the skill points; it's the sneaking and sneak-[b]attacking[/b] that's the primary draw to that class. Fighters, OTOH, will, in the long run, consistently outperform Rangers in terms of sheer general melee "oomf". [/QUOTE]
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