Outsiders

[trentonjoe]

I am not sure if this is the right forum but I'll start here.

WOuld be a good special ability to replace the outsider status from Water genassi?

I would like to keep them as a ECL +1 but I don't want to have to deal with the outsider benefits.

Would a +1 to hit and damage when attacking in water be a fair trade?

How about Dimension door once per day but only in water?

 

[BigFreekinGoblinoid]

I also think that the outsider template is not always appropriate ( perhaps too much power ) for ALL creature types it may be applied to. Feel free to adjust for your campaign as you see fit!

There are several plausible "game explanations" for changing the genasi to non-outsiders. Perhaps your worlds genasi are part Fey
instead of elemental?

 

[trentonjoe]

I think I'll just change their type to humanoid. Any suggestions on what +'s can be added to keep the + 1ECL?

 

[BigFreekinGoblinoid]

I wouldn't add much if the only thing you are subtracting is the outsider abilities. You are using Dragon 293, correct? If you really want to add something to compensate, raise the water save bonus to +2, and perhaps allow them a bonus feat, but limit it to something water related like Rapid Swimming or Breathing Link (from the article )

 

[Wormwood]

I think I'll just change their type to humanoid. Any suggestions on what +'s can be added to keep the + 1ECL?

I'd take a serious look at replacing the FRCS Genasi with Elemarns (from Sean Reynolds)

Much more appropriate for +1 ECL, if you ask me.

 

[Tonguez]

WOuld be a good special ability to replace the outsider status from Water genassi?

I'm not sure I see the point. Why not just make a new race and drop the genasi entirely?

 

[trentonjoe]

I'd take a serious look at replacing the FRCS Genasi with Elemarns (from Sean Reynolds)

Much more appropriate for +1 ECL, if you ask me.

Thanks. I like that one, too. I removed the outsider and waterbreathing ability but I still think it is a +1.