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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 148072" data-attributes="member: 114">I would say that if you are within reach of the invisible person, any kind of &quot;over there&quot; becomes &quot;right there&quot;, and you could attack them with the normal 50% miss chance for full concealment.If they are not within reach, then you should give a bearing, but not a range (human ears, for instance, are great at detecting the direction a sound comes from - presumably from computing the difference between the sounds arrival time and stuff at each separate ear?). This would allow an archer or fireballer to guess a target square along that line and shoot at it. The archer gets to roll to hit if he guesses exactly right. The fireballer will have a better chance since his fireball will burst over 8-9 squares on that line. Lightning bolt is great for these circumstances...(remembering that listen is only a class skill for rogues, rangers, barbarians and monks +/- bards... so the wizards won't have such a good listen skill to take great advantage from this!)Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 148072, member: 114"] I would say that if you are within reach of the invisible person, any kind of "over there" becomes "right there", and you could attack them with the normal 50% miss chance for full concealment. If they are not within reach, then you should give a bearing, but not a range (human ears, for instance, are great at detecting the direction a sound comes from - presumably from computing the difference between the sounds arrival time and stuff at each separate ear?). This would allow an archer or fireballer to guess a target square along that line and shoot at it. The archer gets to roll to hit if he guesses exactly right. The fireballer will have a better chance since his fireball will burst over 8-9 squares on that line. Lightning bolt is great for these circumstances... (remembering that listen is only a class skill for rogues, rangers, barbarians and monks +/- bards... so the wizards won't have such a good listen skill to take great advantage from this!) Cheers [/QUOTE]

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