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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1571556" data-attributes="member: 478">Yeah, time stop is pretty nasty, altho I'm not sure it can (or should be able to) be maximized (since the d4 is duration), but I guess this has been clarified somewhere by now. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />The forcecage + dimensional lock would have killed the cleric in your example without the time stop already (usually clerics do have means to survive this and get out of the cage), so I don't see what it added to the mix there, except being overkill, really. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Also quickened rods shouldn't work like I suppose you use them (and I'm unsure, whether they are meant to do), read my post in the quickened spontaneous spells thread (page 2) for a more detailed explanation, altho that doesn't change the validity of your example, it'd still be possible to quicken one spell and ready a counterspell.ByeThanee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1571556, member: 478"] Yeah, time stop is pretty nasty, altho I'm not sure it can (or should be able to) be maximized (since the d4 is duration), but I guess this has been clarified somewhere by now. ;) The forcecage + dimensional lock would have killed the cleric in your example without the time stop already (usually clerics do have means to survive this and get out of the cage), so I don't see what it added to the mix there, except being overkill, really. :D Also quickened rods shouldn't work like I suppose you use them (and I'm unsure, whether they are meant to do), read my post in the quickened spontaneous spells thread (page 2) for a more detailed explanation, altho that doesn't change the validity of your example, it'd still be possible to quicken one spell and ready a counterspell. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]

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