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<blockquote data-quote="iwatt" data-source="post: 1581720" data-attributes="member: 11085">I agree with your first point that they shoudl have spread out at first.But then you list a specific set of spells and items and conditions to follow to defeat this surprise attack&nbsp; over cross country territory. What, are all your PCs paranoid freaks that are expecting aerial ambushes all the time&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> . I hate using the word &quot;realistic&quot; for DnD, but&nbsp; how real is this. Unless of course your DM is actually throwing Invisible aerial wizards at you all the time, there's no reason to have a complete set of spells ready for that condition. Maybe they were more worried about roaming bands of trolls, for example.And not everyone is walking around with permanent see invisibilities all the time either. It does make sense (survival wise for wizards) but maybe the PC didn't want to take a 1,000 xp hit for it. This does not necessarily make the character unviable.Basically (and I know I've kind of rambled on here <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />) It's really easy to dissect all they did wrong and how they should have handled it to survive. It's another thing to make the correct choices when the dice are rolling. And people make mistakes. My character almost died last session because I forgot to adjust my cohort 5'. And my DM is a crit rolling fiend <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="iwatt, post: 1581720, member: 11085"] I agree with your first point that they shoudl have spread out at first. But then you list a specific set of spells and items and conditions to follow to defeat this surprise attack over cross country territory. What, are all your PCs paranoid freaks that are expecting aerial ambushes all the time ;) . I hate using the word "realistic" for DnD, but how real is this. Unless of course your DM is actually throwing Invisible aerial wizards at you all the time, there's no reason to have a complete set of spells ready for that condition. Maybe they were more worried about roaming bands of trolls, for example. And not everyone is walking around with permanent see invisibilities all the time either. It does make sense (survival wise for wizards) but maybe the PC didn't want to take a 1,000 xp hit for it. This does not necessarily make the character unviable. Basically (and I know I've kind of rambled on here :D) It's really easy to dissect all they did wrong and how they should have handled it to survive. It's another thing to make the correct choices when the dice are rolling. And people make mistakes. My character almost died last session because I forgot to adjust my cohort 5'. And my DM is a crit rolling fiend :D [/QUOTE]

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