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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1584764" data-attributes="member: 6875">That character isn't a Paladin at all.&nbsp; It's a Fighter, with a splash of front-loaded ranger and a splash of front-loaded paladin.&nbsp; Your mention of &quot;the paladin&quot; in your description of the encounter was misleading.&nbsp; Then why weren't you teleporting?&nbsp; ^_^&nbsp; No, my assumptions were made based on the RAW, alone.&nbsp; My first group didn't blow wads of cash on permanent spells and such, either - but the Wizard DID get permanent see invisible, just because it IS far too useful for at least ONE person in the party to have that spell functioning 24/7.&nbsp; What choices?&nbsp; I described real-world spacing issues - just by dint of how many people you had, and the fact that you were riding, you should've been too far apart to catch BOTH ends of your party with a single fireball.&nbsp; Add to that, your comment that they were all WARhorses.&nbsp; That means stallions, and that means no riding side-by-side, either.&nbsp; Because I do mean stallions, not mares or even geldings.&nbsp; A warhorse needs the aggression of intact testosterone-producing gonads ... or it's just a riding horse, at best.&nbsp; A minimum of ten feet, in all directions, between such horses, I'd say.&nbsp; No, but they should then have arranged between them to keep the party blanketed in cast spells that would serve similar purpose, or to craft items of similar function.&nbsp;&nbsp; Wait, above you said TETHYR, now it's AMN.&nbsp; *opens his FRCS and checks the maps* While Tethyr and Amn are adjacent, they're not the same place.&nbsp; So, which was it ... Tethyr ... or Amn?&nbsp; PHB page 85, DC for using a scroll is 20 plus spell-level.&nbsp; And that's one roll, all you have to do, once the spell is deciphered.&nbsp; DC20 to activate the Wand ofRead Magic in order to decipher it check-free.&nbsp; Beg to differ; it COULD be researched, per the Permanency rules.&nbsp; Ergo, it doesn't have to be 100% house rule. &nbsp; You said - and I quote - &quot;pal/ftr/rgr&quot; ... and by listing paladin FIRST, it's entirely logical to assume that Paladin was the class with the most levels.&nbsp; You also merely said, earlier, - and again, I quote:&nbsp; &quot;The paladin&quot;.&nbsp; &quot;His horse&quot;.&nbsp; Logical conclusion, the horse was the paladin's Mount.&nbsp; In combination with the above, logical assumption is 10-ish levels of Paladin.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 1584764, member: 6875"] That character isn't a [b]Paladin[/b] at all. It's a [b]Fighter[/b], with a splash of front-loaded ranger and a splash of front-loaded paladin. Your mention of "the paladin" in your description of the encounter was misleading. Then why weren't you teleporting? ^_^ No, my assumptions were made based on the RAW, alone. My first group didn't blow wads of cash on permanent spells and such, either - but the Wizard DID get permanent [i]see invisible[/i], just because it IS far too useful for at least ONE person in the party to have that spell functioning 24/7. What choices? I described [i]real-world[/i] spacing issues - just by dint of how many people you had, and the fact that you were riding, you should've been too far apart to catch BOTH ends of your party with a single fireball. Add to that, your comment that they were all WARhorses. That means [i]stallions[/i], and that means no riding side-by-side, either. Because I do mean [i]stallions[/i], not mares or even geldings. A warhorse [b]needs[/b] the aggression of [i]intact[/i] testosterone-producing gonads ... or it's just a riding horse, at [i]best[/i]. A minimum of ten feet, in all directions, between such horses, I'd say. No, but they should then have arranged between them to keep the party blanketed in [i]cast[/i] spells that would serve similar purpose, or to craft [i]items[/i] of similar function. Wait, above you said TETHYR, now it's AMN. *opens his FRCS and checks the maps* While Tethyr and Amn are adjacent, they're not the same place. So, which [b]was[/b] it ... Tethyr ... or Amn? PHB page 85, DC for using a scroll is 20 plus spell-level. And that's [b]one roll[/b], all you have to do, once the spell is deciphered. DC20 to activate the Wand ofRead Magic in order to decipher it check-free. Beg to differ; it COULD be researched, per the Permanency rules. Ergo, it doesn't have to be 100% house rule. [b]You[/b] said - and I quote - "pal/ftr/rgr" ... and by listing paladin FIRST, it's entirely logical to assume that Paladin was the class with the most levels. You also merely said, earlier, - and again, I quote: "The paladin". "His horse". Logical conclusion, the horse was the paladin's Mount. In combination with the above, logical assumption is 10-ish levels of Paladin. [/QUOTE]

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