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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 1587283" data-attributes="member: 224">Nice analysis, asupman.&nbsp; I hadn't realized it was 3.0.&nbsp; Thank g_d that's no longer an issue.But be honest, everyone: when you're not used to high level &quot;ambush&quot; tactics, it's easy to make mistakes.&nbsp;&nbsp; It sounds to me like the DM was trying to &quot;teach the players a lesson&quot;.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" />&nbsp;&nbsp; Even as I'm playing (3.5e, BTW), I might forget to prepare for the &quot;invisible attacker&quot; contingency.&nbsp; Invisibility Purge or See Invisibility should be S.O.P. for clerics over level 5....and really: why, by all that's holy, did the paladin just sit there and string his bow?&nbsp; Hello?&nbsp;&nbsp; I think it might be interesting to start a new thread: &quot;Standard Mid-Level Operating Procedure&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; That is: what do you think is a &quot;given&quot; for a 10th to 14th lvl party to &quot;have up&quot; and &quot;do right away&quot; as they travel about and get ambushed?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 1587283, member: 224"] Nice analysis, asupman. I hadn't realized it was 3.0. Thank g_d that's no longer an issue. But be honest, everyone: when you're not used to high level "ambush" tactics, it's easy to make mistakes. It sounds to me like the DM was trying to "teach the players a lesson". :] Even as I'm playing (3.5e, BTW), I might forget to prepare for the "invisible attacker" contingency. [i]Invisibility Purge[/i] or [i]See Invisibility[/i] should be S.O.P. for clerics over level 5. ...and really: why, by all that's holy, did the paladin just sit there and string his bow? Hello? I think it might be interesting to start a new thread: "Standard Mid-Level Operating Procedure". That is: what do you think is a "given" for a 10th to 14th lvl party to "have up" and "do right away" as they travel about and get ambushed? [/QUOTE]

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