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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1601695" data-attributes="member: 5890">The big thing that stood out to me is that this seemed very much like 15th level characters played by people who'd never been beyond 4th level under 3rd edition rules.Using a crossbow at 15th?Using horses without a single person with a ride skill?Noone could fly?Noone had an alternate vision mode?Noone could spot or listen? (invis and flying doesn't trump the skills move silently and hide - they enhance them, sure...)Noone could cast darkness or obscuring mist to level the playing field?The cleric had no area-effect cure spells?Noone had resistance to fire?Noone tried to escape?Bizarre.</blockquote>