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<blockquote data-quote="SBMC" data-source="post: 2745750" data-attributes="member: 30040"><p>The question here lies with whether after the overrun attempt your continued movement generates a <em>second</em> AoO. Is the overrun attempt and the movement one thing?</p><p></p><p>I see your point here as well - and once again it makes logical sense. However note that moving 5 feet never produces an AoO; so in this case (I entered your square from an adjacent square) the AoO you propose is created (by moving out of a threatened square) cannot be. Thus if there is an AoO here It is created by me entering the opponents square exclusively.</p><p></p><p>Now if I moved 10 feet through squares you threaten <strong>AND</strong> then made an overrun attempt against you do you get two AoO’s? The answer there would No; because you only get to make one AoO per AoO generated. I would say here the movement and the overrun attempt are one in the same. </p><p></p><p>IMO, and it is only an opinion:</p><p></p><p>A. The movement you make <em>before</em> you enter the opponents square and the overrun attempt itself are one “action”. Thus no matter how you slice it; anything prior to the actual overrun itself is a single AoO.</p><p></p><p>B. Based on what I read in the RAW the act of entering the opponents square generates an AoO and the leaving that same square after the successful overrun attempt <em>and</em> moving 10 feet is generates a second AoO – if after the overrun you only move 5 feet then no AoO.</p><p></p><p>This is one advantage of Improved Overrun: the feat says no AoO’s; I would hold that to mean before and after the actual overrun occurs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SBMC, post: 2745750, member: 30040"] The question here lies with whether after the overrun attempt your continued movement generates a [I]second[/I] AoO. Is the overrun attempt and the movement one thing? I see your point here as well - and once again it makes logical sense. However note that moving 5 feet never produces an AoO; so in this case (I entered your square from an adjacent square) the AoO you propose is created (by moving out of a threatened square) cannot be. Thus if there is an AoO here It is created by me entering the opponents square exclusively. Now if I moved 10 feet through squares you threaten [B]AND[/B] then made an overrun attempt against you do you get two AoO’s? The answer there would No; because you only get to make one AoO per AoO generated. I would say here the movement and the overrun attempt are one in the same. IMO, and it is only an opinion: A. The movement you make [I]before[/I] you enter the opponents square and the overrun attempt itself are one “action”. Thus no matter how you slice it; anything prior to the actual overrun itself is a single AoO. B. Based on what I read in the RAW the act of entering the opponents square generates an AoO and the leaving that same square after the successful overrun attempt [I]and[/I] moving 10 feet is generates a second AoO – if after the overrun you only move 5 feet then no AoO. This is one advantage of Improved Overrun: the feat says no AoO’s; I would hold that to mean before and after the actual overrun occurs. [/QUOTE]
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