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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3628839" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>What it says:</p><p>"A typical Large character wielding a reach weapon of the appropriate size can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away, but not adjacent creatures or creatures up to 10 feet away."</p><p></p><p>So without a reach weapon of the appropriate size, we can assume a typical Large creature <em>can't</em> attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away, but not adjacent creatures or creatures up to 10 feet away. For example, an Ogre with a Medium longspear.</p><p></p><p>But it's also reasonable to assume that a centaur isn't a 'typical Large character' in this context, since his reach isn't that of a Large (Tall) creature... so the line about appropriate size may not be applicable.</p><p></p><p>Once you introduce the blanket ruling from the FAQ that 'wielding a 'too-small' reach weapon grants no reach', you definitely get the situation you describe.</p><p></p><p>From the FAQ:</p><p><em>A reach weapon doubles its wielder’s natural reach, but</em></p><p><em>only if the weapon is at least of an appropriate size for the</em></p><p><em>wielder. Wielding a “too-small” reach weapon grants no reach.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>An ogre (Large) wielding a Medium or smaller reach</em></p><p><em>weapon gains no reach from the weapon, and could thus attack</em></p><p><em>foes either 5 feet or 10 feet distant (as normal for a Large</em></p><p><em>creature wielding a non-reach weapon).</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>A human (Medium) wielding a Large or larger reach</em></p><p><em>weapon could attack a creature 10 feet away (but no further),</em></p><p><em>and could not use the weapon to attack a creature 5 feet away</em></p><p><em>(as normal for a Medium creature wielding a reach weapon). A</em></p><p><em>human wielding a Small reach weapon would gain no reach</em></p><p><em>from the weapon.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>The Player’s Handbook isn’t as clear on this as it could be,</em></p><p><em>although an example of reach in action on page 113 in the</em></p><p><em>Player’s Handbook provides pretty strong support: “A typical</em></p><p><em>Large character wielding a reach weapon of the appropriate</em></p><p><em>size can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away . . .” [italics</em></p><p><em>added]. While this reference doesn’t mention the ability to</em></p><p><em>wield a reach weapon larger than the appropriate size, allowing</em></p><p><em>such a weapon to grant reach to its wielder is a reasonable</em></p><p><em>extension of the spirit and intent of the rule.</em></p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3628839, member: 1656"] What it says: "A typical Large character wielding a reach weapon of the appropriate size can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away, but not adjacent creatures or creatures up to 10 feet away." So without a reach weapon of the appropriate size, we can assume a typical Large creature [i]can't[/i] attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away, but not adjacent creatures or creatures up to 10 feet away. For example, an Ogre with a Medium longspear. But it's also reasonable to assume that a centaur isn't a 'typical Large character' in this context, since his reach isn't that of a Large (Tall) creature... so the line about appropriate size may not be applicable. Once you introduce the blanket ruling from the FAQ that 'wielding a 'too-small' reach weapon grants no reach', you definitely get the situation you describe. From the FAQ: [i]A reach weapon doubles its wielder’s natural reach, but only if the weapon is at least of an appropriate size for the wielder. Wielding a “too-small” reach weapon grants no reach. An ogre (Large) wielding a Medium or smaller reach weapon gains no reach from the weapon, and could thus attack foes either 5 feet or 10 feet distant (as normal for a Large creature wielding a non-reach weapon). A human (Medium) wielding a Large or larger reach weapon could attack a creature 10 feet away (but no further), and could not use the weapon to attack a creature 5 feet away (as normal for a Medium creature wielding a reach weapon). A human wielding a Small reach weapon would gain no reach from the weapon. The Player’s Handbook isn’t as clear on this as it could be, although an example of reach in action on page 113 in the Player’s Handbook provides pretty strong support: “A typical Large character wielding a reach weapon of the appropriate size can attack a creature 15 or 20 feet away . . .” [italics added]. While this reference doesn’t mention the ability to wield a reach weapon larger than the appropriate size, allowing such a weapon to grant reach to its wielder is a reasonable extension of the spirit and intent of the rule.[/i] -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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