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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 3631578" data-attributes="member: 19675">True enough, but taken as a whole- no use of double weapons, no oversized weapons in the off-hand- the limitations of Monkey Grip show that the oversized weapon, while wieldable, is still awkward at best.  Conceptually, these restrictions fit the model of a creature using an oversized weapon with balance points out beyond where they would be with an appropriately sized weapon.  With a reach weapon, that means there is more mass beyond your grip points than is usual, thus, more reach...and the resultant -2 penalty to hit.Powerful Build, OTOH, is quite clear that the oversized weapon is wielded as if the smaller creature were one size larger.Is it your contention that a creature with Powerful Build gets the benefit of the longer reach and the creature with Monkey Grip does not?The effort of wielding the weapon still changes somewhat- despite no weapon size change, there is still an attack penalty.A L sized creature hands its reach weapon to a M sized creature.  The weapon doesn't shrink, but a special technique (the Feat) allows the smaller creature to wield the otherwise unusable larger reach weapon.The creature isn't merely choking up on the weapon's haft, thus counterbalancing the weight.  Otherwise, there wouldn't be a restriction against the feat not mitigating off-hand penalties of oversized off-hand weapons.  Nor would there be the continued absolute restriction against using double weapons if he were still just grasping the weapon towards the middle- still quite balanaced, but unwieldy from the extra mass.</blockquote>

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