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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8013774" data-attributes="member: 2525">At our preferred bar (MacLeod Ale Brewing Co., which if you ever find yourself in Los Angeles you should try as it's superb) the diet coke is free for the designated driver. No questions asked. No you don't lose street cred for not drinking. Is that a thing still with some people? It's not a thing out here anymore. Nobody cares what you drink. Unless you're drinking a trendy hazy IPA, in which case some hipster might want to argue with you about that.Oh sure I agree it's not cool to have office decisions at a bar. I was simply responding to the very outdated stereotype that bars are for frat boys.These days, most bars I see are brewpubs full of nerds who like craft micro-brews and who nerd-out over the hops and wheat in a new brew mixture, or argue about whether IPAs suck or are awesome, or argue about whether hazy beers are awful or wonderful, or the quality of the honey in a mead, what kind of barrels were used to age the brew, different methods of carbonation, etc.. while playing the latest German-import board game or geek trivia games or...5e D&D.</blockquote>