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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 8012430" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>This is also so true! I own almost every 2nd, 3rd and 4th edition D&D book. Physical and bought most of the 2E stuff electronically as well (when they were $2-$3 a piece). And that is only about 30% of my collection. After 30+ years of collecting, my bookcases are overflowing, I now have to curate my collection, so very little gets added. If it does, generally it's in an electronic format, with a physical book being the exception. I have a lot of room dedicated to my hobby, but many others don't have that luxury, so what do they do when the space they have is filled? Stuff they don't want anymore is sold or given away, very little is actually destroyed. So there is a huge secondary market for RPG books, pretty much the same issue GamesWorkshop has always had and why they are pricing their miniatures so highly, they are competing with themselves. They are filling up the market faster then the market grows, their best case is that entire collections gather dust in attics without being sold or given away. From a D&D perspective a gamer/DM is pretty much done after the PHP/DMG/MM if they were playing/collecting older editions. But a lot of gamers have some form of OCD and want 'complete' collections and keep buying until they don't have no room to put new ones (aka. hoarders).</p><p></p><p>[USER=11760]@Whizbang Dustyboots[/USER] There is no stealing here. But I get what your getting at, that feeling that someone else is making bucks over your back? You know what I did about that? I got creative... Felt that the local gaming store was taking advantage of product pricing, poor service, no stock, etc. Start your own online game(book) store, run that as a side business until other online businesses can do it better and cheaper then you can (amazon.de for example). Know that the folks hiring you out to the customer are making trice what they are paying you? Get a job without intermediaries. Experience telling you that as a freelancer you can earn better, with more freedom? Become a freelancer. Etc. The problem here is not that they pay doesn't suck and people are sometimes treating you badly, but that your not willing to do anything about it. Not willing to change (enough?). Or just not bringing his point across that well, I've read such warnings before here on Enworld, they sounded a lot less like complaining... ;-)</p><p></p><p>As for not enjoying my work: I didn't say that, it's not always sunshine and rainbows, but generally I like helping folks with their IT issues. I especially like it when I make it so that their systems run more efficiently, cheaper, with less man-hours needed for operation. I'm in the business of making myself obsolete... ;-) Just because I work to live, doesn't mean I don't enjoy what I do. But work is still work, not the same kind of 'fun' as <em>fun </em>stuff. Like Pogre said, when a hobby becomes a job, the hobby might be (significantly) less fun. The difference between need and want. I need to do things at work, I want to do things with my hobbies.</p><p></p><p>As for shaming? Look, I don't disagree what with (most) what is said in the original article, just how it is said and why it was said. As a warning, I can only say "Know what your getting into, the pay is going to suck, plan for failure!". But as a complaint, I say what I've been saying. This isn't new information, this has been discussed over the 20 years here, online (do your research!). <em>looks at bottom of posts</em> Where did that signature go? My signature was: "will not accept that, no regrets"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 8012430, member: 725"] This is also so true! I own almost every 2nd, 3rd and 4th edition D&D book. Physical and bought most of the 2E stuff electronically as well (when they were $2-$3 a piece). And that is only about 30% of my collection. After 30+ years of collecting, my bookcases are overflowing, I now have to curate my collection, so very little gets added. If it does, generally it's in an electronic format, with a physical book being the exception. I have a lot of room dedicated to my hobby, but many others don't have that luxury, so what do they do when the space they have is filled? Stuff they don't want anymore is sold or given away, very little is actually destroyed. So there is a huge secondary market for RPG books, pretty much the same issue GamesWorkshop has always had and why they are pricing their miniatures so highly, they are competing with themselves. They are filling up the market faster then the market grows, their best case is that entire collections gather dust in attics without being sold or given away. From a D&D perspective a gamer/DM is pretty much done after the PHP/DMG/MM if they were playing/collecting older editions. But a lot of gamers have some form of OCD and want 'complete' collections and keep buying until they don't have no room to put new ones (aka. hoarders). [USER=11760]@Whizbang Dustyboots[/USER] There is no stealing here. But I get what your getting at, that feeling that someone else is making bucks over your back? You know what I did about that? I got creative... Felt that the local gaming store was taking advantage of product pricing, poor service, no stock, etc. Start your own online game(book) store, run that as a side business until other online businesses can do it better and cheaper then you can (amazon.de for example). Know that the folks hiring you out to the customer are making trice what they are paying you? Get a job without intermediaries. Experience telling you that as a freelancer you can earn better, with more freedom? Become a freelancer. Etc. The problem here is not that they pay doesn't suck and people are sometimes treating you badly, but that your not willing to do anything about it. Not willing to change (enough?). Or just not bringing his point across that well, I've read such warnings before here on Enworld, they sounded a lot less like complaining... ;-) As for not enjoying my work: I didn't say that, it's not always sunshine and rainbows, but generally I like helping folks with their IT issues. I especially like it when I make it so that their systems run more efficiently, cheaper, with less man-hours needed for operation. I'm in the business of making myself obsolete... ;-) Just because I work to live, doesn't mean I don't enjoy what I do. But work is still work, not the same kind of 'fun' as [I]fun [/I]stuff. Like Pogre said, when a hobby becomes a job, the hobby might be (significantly) less fun. The difference between need and want. I need to do things at work, I want to do things with my hobbies. As for shaming? Look, I don't disagree what with (most) what is said in the original article, just how it is said and why it was said. As a warning, I can only say "Know what your getting into, the pay is going to suck, plan for failure!". But as a complaint, I say what I've been saying. This isn't new information, this has been discussed over the 20 years here, online (do your research!). [I]looks at bottom of posts[/I] Where did that signature go? My signature was: "will not accept that, no regrets" [/QUOTE]
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