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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 8028620" data-attributes="member: 18182">Again Owen, thanks for the nuggets of reality in our hobby.Not to detract from Owen's statements, but this is true for any career in the arts. It's incredibly difficult to make enough money to live comfortably and responsibly prepare for retirement. On one hand, why should we consider artistic pursuits as full-time work rather than part-time interests? On the other, the products of artistic expression can generate a lot of money, which often gets claimed by those other than the artists themselves. Our society values art, but undervalues and takes advantage of artists. And yes, game design is art. Fight me.Especially right now. This is happening in several threads right here on ENWorld at the moment. The latest is fans questioning the recent testimony of game designer Orion Black, a former WotC employee.</blockquote>