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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 6621571" data-attributes="member: 6750235">The action / bonus action is gone because the warlock or wizard was required to us one or the other to cast expeditious retreat. He doesn't have that action or bonus action to use again that round. Expeditious retreat allows for dash as a bonus action on subsequent rounds at the additional cost of concentration. So no hex, for example. The reason it's not sustainable is because the wizard does have the slots to accommodate 6 spells of 2nd-level and 6-8 1st-level spells for expeditious retreat over a standard daughter at that level, let alone do anything more than weak damage. The warlock certainly can't do it without the additional help.The rest of the information was argument against the need for offensive ability added because the blade lock can do more damage than the agonizing blaster and shouldn't approach the fighter because of the stronger magical ability the blade warlock also possesses. It included an example that has heavy armor, 16 CON, 20 STR, and 16 CHA for decent casting ability that did more damage than agonizing blast for similar investment.Blade pact warlocks require a better understanding of the system more than any actual mechanical improvements.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 6621571, member: 6750235"] The action / bonus action is gone because the warlock or wizard was required to us one or the other to cast expeditious retreat. He doesn't have that action or bonus action to use again that round. Expeditious retreat allows for dash as a bonus action on subsequent rounds at the additional cost of concentration. So no hex, for example. The reason it's not sustainable is because the wizard does have the slots to accommodate 6 spells of 2nd-level and 6-8 1st-level spells for expeditious retreat over a standard daughter at that level, let alone do anything more than weak damage. The warlock certainly can't do it without the additional help. The rest of the information was argument against the need for offensive ability added because the blade lock can do more damage than the agonizing blaster and shouldn't approach the fighter because of the stronger magical ability the blade warlock also possesses. It included an example that has heavy armor, 16 CON, 20 STR, and 16 CHA for decent casting ability that did more damage than agonizing blast for similar investment. Blade pact warlocks require a better understanding of the system more than any actual mechanical improvements. [/QUOTE]

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