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<blockquote data-quote="Tessarael" data-source="post: 9365844" data-attributes="member: 12909"><p>As a Dread Knight, use Eldritch Smite to boost your pact weapon damage, or that of Eldritch Scythe or Eldritch Whip. You should scale pretty well for damage with Eldritch Smite pumping your damage each round at the cost of one spell point per +d8 up to your proficiency bonus. By Warlock level 11, you should switch over to using Eldritch Scythe to maximize damage output in this manner.</p><p></p><p>Now if you're concentrating on ranged damage, it doesn't work so well at higher levels as you have noted, because Eldritch Smite doesn't work with Eldritch Ray. You're stuck with your Thirsting Blade for two attacks with your pact weapon. To bump up the damage output, maybe switch over to a revolver and two-weapon fighting. Dread Knight is more intended to be a melee combatant.</p><p></p><p>Pact of the Blade does work okay with ranged damage with Eldritch Ray, using a ranged magic weapon to boost your Eldritch Ray attack/damage with those magical modifiers from your pact weapon. However, Eldritch Smite won't help you there.</p><p></p><p>The other thing you may want to make this sort of build work is the Improved Pact Weapon eldritch invocation, so that you can use your pact weapon as a spell focus. For some reason, that eldritch invocation is missing in A5E, and that makes it much more difficult to create a two-weapon-fighting or weapon+shield build with Warlock.</p><p></p><p>As we discussed on another thread, it is also a design oversight in my opinion that Thirsting Blade doesn't just count as Extra Attack. That means you don't get the second two-weapon-fighter attack, which again is rather frustrating for a melee Warlock build.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tessarael, post: 9365844, member: 12909"] As a Dread Knight, use Eldritch Smite to boost your pact weapon damage, or that of Eldritch Scythe or Eldritch Whip. You should scale pretty well for damage with Eldritch Smite pumping your damage each round at the cost of one spell point per +d8 up to your proficiency bonus. By Warlock level 11, you should switch over to using Eldritch Scythe to maximize damage output in this manner. Now if you're concentrating on ranged damage, it doesn't work so well at higher levels as you have noted, because Eldritch Smite doesn't work with Eldritch Ray. You're stuck with your Thirsting Blade for two attacks with your pact weapon. To bump up the damage output, maybe switch over to a revolver and two-weapon fighting. Dread Knight is more intended to be a melee combatant. Pact of the Blade does work okay with ranged damage with Eldritch Ray, using a ranged magic weapon to boost your Eldritch Ray attack/damage with those magical modifiers from your pact weapon. However, Eldritch Smite won't help you there. The other thing you may want to make this sort of build work is the Improved Pact Weapon eldritch invocation, so that you can use your pact weapon as a spell focus. For some reason, that eldritch invocation is missing in A5E, and that makes it much more difficult to create a two-weapon-fighting or weapon+shield build with Warlock. As we discussed on another thread, it is also a design oversight in my opinion that Thirsting Blade doesn't just count as Extra Attack. That means you don't get the second two-weapon-fighter attack, which again is rather frustrating for a melee Warlock build. [/QUOTE]
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