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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 9855226" data-attributes="member: 31754"><p>Number 3 is wrong.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I use the Attack action. This satisfies the conditions of the swap: during this action, I can swap an attack.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I make an attack with my Scimitar. This satisfies the conditions for the Light property -- I can make an attack with a bonus action with another Light weapon.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><s>Because of the Nick mastery, when I make this attack, it can be part of the Attack action.</s> You haven't made the extra attack of the Light property yet.*</li> </ol><p>You made one attack with a Light weapon that allows you to make an attack with a different Light weapon as a Bonus Action. Since you did not "make the extra attack of the <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/equipment#Light" target="_blank">Light</a> property" you can't change it to be part of the attack. It is only <em>when</em> you make the extra attack of the Light property that you can move it to the Attack action. If you never make the attack, you never trigger Nick, and you cannot move it to the Attack action.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, even without Nick, if you never make the Bonus Action attack with a different Light weapon from the Light property, then you don't have an attack to replace.</p><p></p><p>Now, to play devil's advocate, you <em>could</em> say that:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I use the Attack action. This satisfies the conditions of the swap: during this action, I can swap an attack.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I make an attack with my shortsword. This allows me to make an attack with a different Light weapon as a Bonus Action.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I make an attack with my scimitar. This allows me to use the Nick Weapon Property of my Scimitar to move it to the Attack action.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Before I roll the attack, I forgo the attack to allow my familiar to make one attack of its own with its Reaction.</li> </ol><p>This seems incredibly gamist to me. Somehow having a scimitar in my hand allows me to command my familiar to atttck, but if I only have one weapon, I can't. For no discernable reason. But if that's the way you like to play, feel free.</p><p></p><p>I think the rules could support either interpretation. It is clear that if you don't attack with a second Light weapon, then you don't get the extra attack, but you can also claim it is "an order of operations" thing, as in my second example, and it works. But I know which one I would prefer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Twig, post: 9855226, member: 31754"] Number 3 is wrong. [LIST=1] [*]I use the Attack action. This satisfies the conditions of the swap: during this action, I can swap an attack. [*]I make an attack with my Scimitar. This satisfies the conditions for the Light property -- I can make an attack with a bonus action with another Light weapon. [*][S]Because of the Nick mastery, when I make this attack, it can be part of the Attack action.[/S] You haven't made the extra attack of the Light property yet.* [/LIST] You made one attack with a Light weapon that allows you to make an attack with a different Light weapon as a Bonus Action. Since you did not "make the extra attack of the [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/equipment#Light']Light[/URL] property" you can't change it to be part of the attack. It is only [I]when[/I] you make the extra attack of the Light property that you can move it to the Attack action. If you never make the attack, you never trigger Nick, and you cannot move it to the Attack action. Likewise, even without Nick, if you never make the Bonus Action attack with a different Light weapon from the Light property, then you don't have an attack to replace. Now, to play devil's advocate, you [I]could[/I] say that: [LIST=1] [*]I use the Attack action. This satisfies the conditions of the swap: during this action, I can swap an attack. [*]I make an attack with my shortsword. This allows me to make an attack with a different Light weapon as a Bonus Action. [*]I make an attack with my scimitar. This allows me to use the Nick Weapon Property of my Scimitar to move it to the Attack action. [*]Before I roll the attack, I forgo the attack to allow my familiar to make one attack of its own with its Reaction. [/LIST] This seems incredibly gamist to me. Somehow having a scimitar in my hand allows me to command my familiar to atttck, but if I only have one weapon, I can't. For no discernable reason. But if that's the way you like to play, feel free. I think the rules could support either interpretation. It is clear that if you don't attack with a second Light weapon, then you don't get the extra attack, but you can also claim it is "an order of operations" thing, as in my second example, and it works. But I know which one I would prefer. [/QUOTE]
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