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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lurker 2.0" data-source="post: 1818148" data-attributes="member: 24976">Yeah... I wrote this post because I was having problems with a Stonechild PC (Miniatures HB/Races of Stone, 2 HD +4 LA Outsider, +8 Str/Con; this one has a +1 Huge Greatsword, the Monkey Grip feat from CW, and a 26 Str), who was attacking for something around +10, 2d6+13, usually PA at +8, 2d6+17. The best I've *ever* seen TWF done was with an 11th level rogue, who still ended up missing half the time but actually did some damage. All the TWF fighters in my campaigns miss a lot (-10% to hit in exchange for another attack doesn't seem to helpful when you're dealing with guys you need a nat 17 to hit to begin with), and never seem to do more than about 10 damage a hit at *best*, usually about 15 dmg over four attacks (and this is like with a rapier and shortsword, 14 Str; the high-Dex TWF req and the resulting Str tradeoff ends up not being worth the second weapon in the majority of cases I've seen.)Another argument I meant to post in the beginning: Screw AC. Concealment is the way to go. A 20% miss chance (or 50%) is a 20% miss chance - whether you're fighting a crippled goblin or a +55 power-attacking dragon. So is Concealment overpowered or AC underpowered? Is there a way to make AC buffs more viable, or should I just accept that concealment is gonna be a better deal, and trust that my players aren't gonna munchkinize and always get concealment?</blockquote>