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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3813005" data-attributes="member: 4937">Mourn: There doesn't seem to be alot of point in discussing this with you.  My point is that from my perspective, third party companies have already gone head to head with WotC and won.  WotC's overall product quality is miserable.  We have pretty good evidence that there is strong continuing support for 3.X edition and dislike of much of the direction 4e was going in.  (My favorite example being that they announced that there would be faster leveling in 4e and in EnWorld polls only 20% supported that - fewer than supported slower leveling.) Suppose EnWorld conducts a poll next spring of how many DM's plan to move to 4e, and its only 60% or even 50% or even 30%.  Then what?  You think the third party publishes are going to give up a slice of the market that large?</blockquote>