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<blockquote data-quote="dmccoy1693" data-source="post: 3849391" data-attributes="member: 51747"><p>The more 4E news I hear, the more I think about 4E and 5E Traveller. I'm not talking Mongoose's Traveller or GURPS or T20. I mean Marc Miller's Traveller. 4E was highly antisipated and largely ignored by Traveller fans. The system was bad, the fluff wasn't what the fans wanted, and so on. 5E, despite numerous delays and the fact that most long time Traveller fans are mad that it is mostly based on 4E, may sell decently well because Marc Miller (the brain behind Traveller 1E-4E) is doing it. Meanwhile, Mongoose is putting out an edition that appears to be on schedule, exactly what the long time traveller fans and noob traveller fans want (how it pleases both baffles my mind, but they are doing it) and is OGL.</p><p></p><p>I don't understand why people are pronouncing doom and gloom if Paizo leaves 4E behind. I mean the mechanical changes to d20 4E sound great. The fluff has me less then thrilled. And I know I am not the only one that thinks that way. A Pathfinder RPG (if its OGL) would be something I am interesed in because it sounds like it would leave the fluff where it belongs and follows a similar path of mechanical changes that 4E would use. Other companies have left d20 publishing for their own systems (Green Ronin/Mongoose) and they are doing quite well for themselves. So why do people believe that Paizo will fail if they do similar? Paizo will be delivering exactly what some customers want.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dmccoy1693, post: 3849391, member: 51747"] The more 4E news I hear, the more I think about 4E and 5E Traveller. I'm not talking Mongoose's Traveller or GURPS or T20. I mean Marc Miller's Traveller. 4E was highly antisipated and largely ignored by Traveller fans. The system was bad, the fluff wasn't what the fans wanted, and so on. 5E, despite numerous delays and the fact that most long time Traveller fans are mad that it is mostly based on 4E, may sell decently well because Marc Miller (the brain behind Traveller 1E-4E) is doing it. Meanwhile, Mongoose is putting out an edition that appears to be on schedule, exactly what the long time traveller fans and noob traveller fans want (how it pleases both baffles my mind, but they are doing it) and is OGL. I don't understand why people are pronouncing doom and gloom if Paizo leaves 4E behind. I mean the mechanical changes to d20 4E sound great. The fluff has me less then thrilled. And I know I am not the only one that thinks that way. A Pathfinder RPG (if its OGL) would be something I am interesed in because it sounds like it would leave the fluff where it belongs and follows a similar path of mechanical changes that 4E would use. Other companies have left d20 publishing for their own systems (Green Ronin/Mongoose) and they are doing quite well for themselves. So why do people believe that Paizo will fail if they do similar? Paizo will be delivering exactly what some customers want. [/QUOTE]
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