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<blockquote data-quote="tenkar" data-source="post: 3874416" data-attributes="member: 15047"><p>The original poster suggested that he would have to make up classes / races himself. I indicated that many would be in the same boat. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What about Favored Souls (a perennial ENWorld favorite)? Scouts? Numerous other classes that WotC has added to the mix? None of these will be in the 1st 4e PH. Many will be looking to play their old classes in the new edition.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe WotC is hoping that the vast majority of 3.5 campaigns will wrap up and new campaigns will be started with 4e. Look at the FR reboot. Kinda like going from XP to Vista and finding some of your favorite programs no longer work or don't work as well with the upgrade. As an aside I have stuck with XP <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I mourn the loss of Bards... I have played such since the old Bard Variant in Dragon #56. I never said Druids or Bards aren't "core", just that there are many classes being actively played that are official that aren't going to be in the initial 4e release.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No one IS being forced to play with the new rules. I'm interested in seeing what WotC puts out and I am hopeful that it will be for me, but if it isn't I've got more then enough 3.5 books to last me a lifetime.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nice... Like the way you read into my post stuff that wasn't there <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I was not being rude or dismissive. As I stated earlier, I been playing a version of the Bard since 1e. I'll be playing one in 4e even though there won't be one officially at release (assuming I play 4e at all).</p><p></p><p>Again, my feeling is that WotC is hoping there will be very few conversions and more reboots when 4e hits. I'm not hopeful that converting 3.5 to 4e will be easy, let alone accurate and complete.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tenkar, post: 3874416, member: 15047"] The original poster suggested that he would have to make up classes / races himself. I indicated that many would be in the same boat. What about Favored Souls (a perennial ENWorld favorite)? Scouts? Numerous other classes that WotC has added to the mix? None of these will be in the 1st 4e PH. Many will be looking to play their old classes in the new edition. I believe WotC is hoping that the vast majority of 3.5 campaigns will wrap up and new campaigns will be started with 4e. Look at the FR reboot. Kinda like going from XP to Vista and finding some of your favorite programs no longer work or don't work as well with the upgrade. As an aside I have stuck with XP ;) I mourn the loss of Bards... I have played such since the old Bard Variant in Dragon #56. I never said Druids or Bards aren't "core", just that there are many classes being actively played that are official that aren't going to be in the initial 4e release. No one IS being forced to play with the new rules. I'm interested in seeing what WotC puts out and I am hopeful that it will be for me, but if it isn't I've got more then enough 3.5 books to last me a lifetime. Nice... Like the way you read into my post stuff that wasn't there ;) Well, I was not being rude or dismissive. As I stated earlier, I been playing a version of the Bard since 1e. I'll be playing one in 4e even though there won't be one officially at release (assuming I play 4e at all). Again, my feeling is that WotC is hoping there will be very few conversions and more reboots when 4e hits. I'm not hopeful that converting 3.5 to 4e will be easy, let alone accurate and complete. [/QUOTE]
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