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<blockquote data-quote="dmccoy1693" data-source="post: 3874639" data-attributes="member: 51747">True, but the thing is is that Favored Souls, Scouts, Shadowcasters, Warlocks, Ninjas and so on are suppose to be much less common then Bards, Sorcerers, and Druids.&nbsp; By promoting the Warlock to PHB1, WotC is assuming a setting where making a pact with an infernal being is alot more common then playing a lute.&nbsp; That doesn't seem right to me.&nbsp; Yea, WotC isn't FORCING a world where that's the default, but remember, all you're suppose to need to play the game is the 3 books and your imagination.&nbsp; The thing is is that I want to love 4E.&nbsp; I want 4E to be a great edition.&nbsp; I think its a little soon, but hey, I am not the one that makes those choices.&nbsp; But a world that assumes infernal pacts are not uncommon is not a world that I want to play in.&nbsp; A world where infernal pacts happen and they are occassional sidekicks to the BBG, sure.&nbsp; but not when they are highly intricate part of the setting.&nbsp; So in the end, I'm not going to upgrade.&nbsp; What I have now works for my group.&nbsp; And if Paizo puts out more 3.5 products, I'm there.&nbsp; If they put out products for a system that is reasonably compatable, I'll use them.&nbsp; If they come out with their own RPG, I'll probably have a 2nd game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dmccoy1693, post: 3874639, member: 51747"] True, but the thing is is that Favored Souls, Scouts, Shadowcasters, Warlocks, Ninjas and so on are suppose to be much less common then Bards, Sorcerers, and Druids. By promoting the Warlock to PHB1, WotC is assuming a setting where making a pact with an infernal being is alot more common then playing a lute. That doesn't seem right to me. Yea, WotC isn't FORCING a world where that's the default, but remember, all you're suppose to need to play the game is the 3 books and your imagination. The thing is is that I want to love 4E. I want 4E to be a great edition. I think its a little soon, but hey, I am not the one that makes those choices. But a world that assumes infernal pacts are not uncommon is not a world that I want to play in. A world where infernal pacts happen and they are occassional sidekicks to the BBG, sure. but not when they are highly intricate part of the setting. So in the end, I'm not going to upgrade. What I have now works for my group. And if Paizo puts out more 3.5 products, I'm there. If they put out products for a system that is reasonably compatable, I'll use them. If they come out with their own RPG, I'll probably have a 2nd game. [/QUOTE]

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