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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 3875737" data-attributes="member: 710">I love Bards, too, but Warlocks can be "Diplomancers" just like the Bard, and they get to play a very active, direct role in combat. (The Bard is very useful in combat - but his influence is indirect due to the bonuses he grants)I hope that the 4th edition Bard (which will come eventually, I am sure about that) will be better in the "butt-kicking" department. (I remember that somewhere - maybe PHB II - they claimed the Bard can be a second-line melee fighter - having played a Bard myself, and having seen a few of them played by others, I can assure that this isn't a realistic proposition. Archer, yes, maybe. But frontline? All the disadvantages of the Rogue or Cleric with none of his benefits?)</blockquote>