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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Reaper Steve" data-source="post: 4115336" data-attributes="member: 51528">Bold! Audacious! But ultimately, I think it will be remembered as a brave attempt...I am a Pathfinder subscriber, and will continue to be in the short term. I was hoping that the Adventure Path #3 would be 4E but I expected not (with the lack of GSL and all) so I'll probably hang on at least through that.But the Pathfinder Alpha pdf has proven to me that 3.5 is done. There are some great things in there... things I would have loved to have seen years ago. But ultimately they are patches on fallacies of the game that have been propagated through every edition. Their proposals makes some things better, but for me, they are not worth sticking with 3.5 and its fundamental flaws when 4E fixes those root problems.A 3.5 derivative, while it may profit in the short-term, is ultimately a losing proposition. The customer base isn't going to grow. The 'Pathfinder RPG' will not be able to hold its own on the shelf next to D&D.Of course, short term is better than no term.Paizo has to do what it has to do. Although if I were in this position and in charge and elected not to go to 4E, I would not publish my own house-ruled 3.5, I would take my own hack at redesigning the game from the ground up while holding on to whatever principles I think 'make it D&D.' But it would not BE D&D... it would be a game carefully designed to appeal to fans of older editions of D&D, specifically 3.5.)For instance, it's been too long coming that single digit HPs at first level--rolled randomly, no less--went the way of the dodo. Having the Pathfinder RPG bump a wizard HP from d4 to d6 is not near the fix required. (Yes, I read the sidebar and know there are other options. But those options are all based on an outdated trope.)Now is definitely the time for a company seeking to sever their dependence on WotC/OGL/GSL to do so. But to do so, I think they must have their own stand alone system.I wish them luck and I enjoy their products, but I suspect they have overestimated the 3.5 loyalty.</blockquote>

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