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<blockquote data-quote="Firevalkyrie" data-source="post: 4120359" data-attributes="member: 57371">Oh, come on. I'm sick of people saying this because it smacks REALLY heavily of pipe dreaming. Inevitably, it always comes from people who think that their personal preference means anything in the face of market demographics. Unless 4E really, and I mean REALLY sucks, people are going to follow the brand. That's the experience of history. New Coke is AN ANOMALY, not the pattern. It gets as much press as it does because things did not happen as they should have. If the New Coke transition had happened as similar brand transitions have been proven to happen through history, we'd be drinking New Coke now and not even noticing the difference.Not only that, but RPGs don't have a &quot;Pepsi&quot; for people to latch onto. D&amp;D is pretty much the only game out there with that oh so precious commodity, name recognition. Outside of really zealous Internet fans, Paizo has virtually no name recognition for either their company or for the Pathfinder brand; they are essentially building Pathfinder from the ground up in the face of the established dominant brand in the industry with a 35-year head start. We call games like this &quot;Fantasy Heartbreakers&quot; or &quot;OGL Heartbreakers&quot; for a reason.Specifically, they referred to companies reprinting verbatim the SRD as a for-profit product. I'm not surprised they didn't; to most of the world that's called plagiarism.Pure pipe dreaming. I'm sure that Hasbro has calculated a margin of success they can reasonably expect from D&amp;D (incidentally, the RPG brand is only one facet of D&amp;D), and anything beyond that is gravy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Firevalkyrie, post: 4120359, member: 57371"] Oh, [I]come on.[/I] I'm sick of people saying this because it smacks REALLY heavily of pipe dreaming. Inevitably, it always comes from people who think that their personal preference means anything in the face of market demographics. Unless 4E really, and I mean REALLY sucks, people are going to follow the brand. That's the experience of history. New Coke is AN ANOMALY, not the pattern. It gets as much press as it does because [i]things did not happen as they should have[/i]. If the New Coke transition had happened as similar brand transitions have been proven to happen through history, we'd be drinking New Coke now and not even noticing the difference. Not only that, but RPGs don't have a "Pepsi" for people to latch onto. D&D is pretty much the only game out there with that oh so precious commodity, name recognition. Outside of really zealous Internet fans, Paizo has virtually no name recognition for either their company or for the Pathfinder brand; they are essentially building Pathfinder from the ground up in the face of the established dominant brand in the industry with a 35-year head start. We call games like this "Fantasy Heartbreakers" or "OGL Heartbreakers" for a reason. Specifically, they referred to companies reprinting verbatim the SRD as a for-profit product. I'm not surprised they didn't; to most of the world that's called plagiarism. Pure pipe dreaming. I'm sure that Hasbro has calculated a margin of success they can reasonably expect from D&D (incidentally, the RPG brand is only one facet of D&D), and anything beyond that is gravy. [/QUOTE]

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