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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7736426" data-attributes="member: 37579">The poster I was replying to was just discussing a then theoretical PF2, and he doubted it was coming because Pathfinder was still growing. And now, despite the announcement, he's still trying to claim Pathfinder was doing awesome the past couple years.How long should they wait? No idea. Picking a set time is arbitrary. Effectively random. You do it when the game starts lagging, when sales are dropping. If things are better than ever and the game is still growing, you don't launch a new edition then. You always lose people in a conversion. An conversion rate of 100% is impossible. And if a large number of people are still playing and buying and being involved in the game, you're just encouraging them not to upgrade. Because they're currently happy.It does sounds like Starfinder is doing well. Happy for Paizo for that. I had wondered if it was doing well beyond GenCon and in game stores. I do wish Paizo the best and almost hope this gets me back on Team Pathfinder.False dilemma fallacy. Yeah, they need a deadline, but the options aren't a) one year or b) forever. One year isn't long, not when they need to start laying out the book and getting it sent to the prints in March. And they need time to playtest any fixes. You can look at their past playtests for examples of when they stopped taking feedback. Often it was December. So, really, it's a 4 month playtest.How many people will *actually* play more than a couple games during that period? To really test the gameplay at multiple levels and kick the tires enough to catch the abuses and problems? To accurately test out play at level 15 while the players have an accurate grasp of their character's abilities.</blockquote>

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