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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7736875" data-attributes="member: 6704184">I mean, 5e proves that you can bring casters and non casters closer in power without upsetting older fans, so I buy these arguments very little. The 3.5 example is funny, because you even point out what actually created the problem. That is, proliferation of save or suck spells. In 5e, fighters and rogues are killing tough enemies while the wizard summons something that might kill some enemies next round, or dropping control on sections of the field, or boosting allies, or setting up the fighter and rogue to even more effectively gank enemies. At high levels, both classes can one-shot even pretty tough non-legendary creatures, and legendary resistance helps make them equal in importance with casters for taking down legendary enemies. Making casters noticeably less fun to play, on a purely play-style level, is not a valid method of balance.</blockquote>