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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9078450" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>There is good AND bad with that.</p><p></p><p>You've stated some good things, but there's a darker side to all of this as well. I've seen it locally recently and many people are getting angry.</p><p></p><p>A bunch of communities outside of California, NYC, Vancouver, Toronto, and other North American locations are hurting very badly right now.</p><p></p><p>This is because of things similar to this where people are allowed to work from home out of state.</p><p></p><p>It could be easiest if I explain it by example (and it IS JUST AN EXAMPLE...not to be actually applied as there are a LOT of variables that change from place to place and location to location). In the Northern Florida Panhandle the median wage was around 35K (somewhat lower than other more populated areas of the state). A few years before the work from home thing became a fad, homes were able to be bought for perhaps 125K (yes, I know, cheap comparatively to many locations...but remember...the median wage there). More expensive homes perhaps ran 200K and above.</p><p></p><p>Suddenly all these people from out of state started moving to S the Northern Florida Panhandle.</p><p></p><p>Now the price of a home in the area is going for 300K. You may be able to get a really torn down wrecked house that is about to be condemned for 170K. People from California, NYC, Washington State, and elsewhere all moved in and the price of homes skyrocketed. They could pay cash and offered 100K over what the asking price was so that the locals couldn't even afford to buy. Now...the person working remote from Washington State has a GREAT state of living...but everyone else who is left with the old economy can't even afford a down payment...much less the rising cost of rent.</p><p></p><p>A LOT of resentment is going towards many of those who "raise" their cost of living. Sure, it's great for those who just moved...and HORRIBLE for everyone else.</p><p></p><p>I know it isn't popular, but some have suggested that pay for work go DOWN and people get paid less if they move to areas which have a cheaper cost of living. It used to be a highly unpopular idea, but in some areas it is growing in popularity EXACTLY because the locals have been priced out of their own homes and areas due to the new people moving in being paid California and NYC salaries, but living among those who don't make anything close to that.</p><p></p><p>It's great for those from Seattle, and San Francisco, and NYC...but it really stinks for those who they move among and live among.</p><p></p><p>As I said...people are getting angry. There is a lot of people blaming the corporations, but it's these people moving in who have a huge amount of money coming to where there isn't as much money and buying everything up that is also to blame for...</p><p></p><p>Children no longer able to buy or even rent a place to live...houses exceed the local salaries...even for nurses and those with educations...</p><p></p><p>The loss of housing inventory and the steep competition from the locals with out of staters...</p><p></p><p>The loss of local culture because out of staters with money want to change things (a good example is a community well we had around where I live. It had significance having been around since the town's founding. The out of staters saw it as a dilapadated things and sought to plug it up, cart away the stones, and destroy it. The fight between the locals who have been here and the out of staters was nasty and rough. It was NOT pleasant or friendly).</p><p></p><p>So, I admit there IS good from it, there can ALSO be bad that is happening because of such actions as well which the out of staters moving in do not think about (or even care about).</p><p></p><p>PS: I do admit I DO like the ideas of working from home and Remote work, but this is one problem that I've seen crop up that is NOT really being addressed by all of this. It's a sticky and tricky situation that I have NO IDEA how it will be resolved. As I travel quite a bit myself and have homes in several different locations I probably could also be seen as one of those who are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. This is not me blaming these people, as I would probably fit in to this group as well...it's my pointing out that I am part of a growing difficulty that is spreading across North America. It's four fingers pointing right back at me...and I know it. I'm just as guilty as anyone else in this matter, if not more so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 9078450, member: 4348"] There is good AND bad with that. You've stated some good things, but there's a darker side to all of this as well. I've seen it locally recently and many people are getting angry. A bunch of communities outside of California, NYC, Vancouver, Toronto, and other North American locations are hurting very badly right now. This is because of things similar to this where people are allowed to work from home out of state. It could be easiest if I explain it by example (and it IS JUST AN EXAMPLE...not to be actually applied as there are a LOT of variables that change from place to place and location to location). In the Northern Florida Panhandle the median wage was around 35K (somewhat lower than other more populated areas of the state). A few years before the work from home thing became a fad, homes were able to be bought for perhaps 125K (yes, I know, cheap comparatively to many locations...but remember...the median wage there). More expensive homes perhaps ran 200K and above. Suddenly all these people from out of state started moving to S the Northern Florida Panhandle. Now the price of a home in the area is going for 300K. You may be able to get a really torn down wrecked house that is about to be condemned for 170K. People from California, NYC, Washington State, and elsewhere all moved in and the price of homes skyrocketed. They could pay cash and offered 100K over what the asking price was so that the locals couldn't even afford to buy. Now...the person working remote from Washington State has a GREAT state of living...but everyone else who is left with the old economy can't even afford a down payment...much less the rising cost of rent. A LOT of resentment is going towards many of those who "raise" their cost of living. Sure, it's great for those who just moved...and HORRIBLE for everyone else. I know it isn't popular, but some have suggested that pay for work go DOWN and people get paid less if they move to areas which have a cheaper cost of living. It used to be a highly unpopular idea, but in some areas it is growing in popularity EXACTLY because the locals have been priced out of their own homes and areas due to the new people moving in being paid California and NYC salaries, but living among those who don't make anything close to that. It's great for those from Seattle, and San Francisco, and NYC...but it really stinks for those who they move among and live among. As I said...people are getting angry. There is a lot of people blaming the corporations, but it's these people moving in who have a huge amount of money coming to where there isn't as much money and buying everything up that is also to blame for... Children no longer able to buy or even rent a place to live...houses exceed the local salaries...even for nurses and those with educations... The loss of housing inventory and the steep competition from the locals with out of staters... The loss of local culture because out of staters with money want to change things (a good example is a community well we had around where I live. It had significance having been around since the town's founding. The out of staters saw it as a dilapadated things and sought to plug it up, cart away the stones, and destroy it. The fight between the locals who have been here and the out of staters was nasty and rough. It was NOT pleasant or friendly). So, I admit there IS good from it, there can ALSO be bad that is happening because of such actions as well which the out of staters moving in do not think about (or even care about). PS: I do admit I DO like the ideas of working from home and Remote work, but this is one problem that I've seen crop up that is NOT really being addressed by all of this. It's a sticky and tricky situation that I have NO IDEA how it will be resolved. As I travel quite a bit myself and have homes in several different locations I probably could also be seen as one of those who are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. This is not me blaming these people, as I would probably fit in to this group as well...it's my pointing out that I am part of a growing difficulty that is spreading across North America. It's four fingers pointing right back at me...and I know it. I'm just as guilty as anyone else in this matter, if not more so. [/QUOTE]
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