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<blockquote data-quote="Hellkat9940" data-source="post: 7729352" data-attributes="member: 69513"><p>Generally, the class is basically features sawed off of existing classes and mashed together.</p><p></p><p>You take a renamed Hunter's Animal Focus, dubbed Animal Aspect, just one of them, and that's your shape. You get to pick another one every few levels, but for the most part you get to count the number of animal forms you can shift into on one hand.</p><p></p><p>And you don't shift at the start, it takes a few levels to get proper wildshape (which is limited to your chosen form).</p><p></p><p>You've got slooooooooooowly scaling claw attacks and Monk's +Wis to AC that stacks with armor (you have the Druid's no metal restriction).</p><p></p><p>The Shifter's actual shifting is Beast Shape II, and pretty much all the actual shifting comes entirely from that spell effect.</p><p></p><p>It gets a Large form and Pounce online at level 5, and kinda peaks there.</p><p></p><p>As a Druid can pick whatever animal they like for their forms, not just the handful that are the specific aspects they chose.</p><p></p><p>This makes the shapeshifting utility quite limited.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and Paizo forgot to include fully aquatic critters on the list, so no Shark Shape for you.</p><p></p><p>And some of the archetypes are pretty lackluster. The Elemental one trades out your always on claws for limited use abilities, so especially at low levels you can be a Shifter that runs out of the capacity to shift, and the Ooze-based one basically makes it so you can't use any gear, mundane or magical, while in your other form.</p><p></p><p>I think basically everything from the Shifter is taken from some other class (Ranger, Hunter, Monk, Druid), and is either functionally identical or made outright worse, IE Animal Aspect being a worse version of Animal Focus, Shifter's Wild Shape being FAR more limited than a Druid;s animal Wild Shape options, etc.</p><p></p><p>Basically, a Skinwalker Barbarian or Bloodrager with the right options can do the who full BAB shapeshifter thing more effectively than the Shifter class itself can, and a Druid's Wild Shape utility easily puts the Shifter to shame.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hellkat9940, post: 7729352, member: 69513"] Generally, the class is basically features sawed off of existing classes and mashed together. You take a renamed Hunter's Animal Focus, dubbed Animal Aspect, just one of them, and that's your shape. You get to pick another one every few levels, but for the most part you get to count the number of animal forms you can shift into on one hand. And you don't shift at the start, it takes a few levels to get proper wildshape (which is limited to your chosen form). You've got slooooooooooowly scaling claw attacks and Monk's +Wis to AC that stacks with armor (you have the Druid's no metal restriction). The Shifter's actual shifting is Beast Shape II, and pretty much all the actual shifting comes entirely from that spell effect. It gets a Large form and Pounce online at level 5, and kinda peaks there. As a Druid can pick whatever animal they like for their forms, not just the handful that are the specific aspects they chose. This makes the shapeshifting utility quite limited. Oh, and Paizo forgot to include fully aquatic critters on the list, so no Shark Shape for you. And some of the archetypes are pretty lackluster. The Elemental one trades out your always on claws for limited use abilities, so especially at low levels you can be a Shifter that runs out of the capacity to shift, and the Ooze-based one basically makes it so you can't use any gear, mundane or magical, while in your other form. I think basically everything from the Shifter is taken from some other class (Ranger, Hunter, Monk, Druid), and is either functionally identical or made outright worse, IE Animal Aspect being a worse version of Animal Focus, Shifter's Wild Shape being FAR more limited than a Druid;s animal Wild Shape options, etc. Basically, a Skinwalker Barbarian or Bloodrager with the right options can do the who full BAB shapeshifter thing more effectively than the Shifter class itself can, and a Druid's Wild Shape utility easily puts the Shifter to shame. [/QUOTE]
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