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<blockquote data-quote="IanB" data-source="post: 3672555" data-attributes="member: 1473">An agreement with an evil creature should never have been made in the first place, which is what the paladin should be atoning for (they get detect evil for a reason); thinking better of it when he realized what he'd gotten into would be a mitigating factor in the paladin's favor, it seems to me.But in any case, after thinking about this overnight, I think the DM (or module writer, if they're different) may possibly deserve some blame for setting up a situation where the paladin is stuck with making an agreement with an imp. If you want to make your paladin player make hard choices, that's cool, but I don't think an obviously evil outsider is a good way to do it. Savage Tide spoiler: [spoiler]It is the same reason I think a lot of Savage Tide campaigns will break down when they get to the ending, where you have to go around and make deals with a bunch of other demon lords to help fight Demogorgon. Too many of them will just have players refuse to deal with Orcus or Malcanthet, and I can hardly blame those players for not playing along with the plot railroad in that case.[/spoiler]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IanB, post: 3672555, member: 1473"] An agreement with an evil creature should never have been made in the first place, which is what the paladin should be atoning for (they get detect evil for a reason); thinking better of it when he realized what he'd gotten into would be a mitigating factor in the paladin's favor, it seems to me. But in any case, after thinking about this overnight, I think the DM (or module writer, if they're different) may possibly deserve some blame for setting up a situation where the paladin is stuck with making an agreement with an imp. If you want to make your paladin player make hard choices, that's cool, but I don't think an obviously evil outsider is a good way to do it. Savage Tide spoiler: [spoiler]It is the same reason I think a lot of Savage Tide campaigns will break down when they get to the ending, where you have to go around and make deals with a bunch of other demon lords to help fight Demogorgon. Too many of them will just have players refuse to deal with Orcus or Malcanthet, and I can hardly blame those players for not playing along with the plot railroad in that case.[/spoiler] [/QUOTE]

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