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Paladin Actions - Appropriate?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3672569" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>I think there's a difference between "Making an agreement with this creature may provide some advantage", and "Making an agreement with this creature is necessary to proceed with the adventure".</p><p></p><p>If the enemy stronghold is literally impenetrable - it's guaranteed that you will be detected and killed if you try to get in - and the only way to circumvent this is to deal with the traitor who demands a virgin sacrifice before he'll cooperate, it's a no-win situation for the paladin.</p><p></p><p>If the enemy stronghold is formidable - good chance of death, but potentially doable - but the danger can be waved away by dealing with the traitor who demands a virgin sacrifice before he'll cooperate, the paladin can certainly refuse to deal, preferring the risky but morally-less-repugnant option.</p><p></p><p>If the enemy stronghold is formidable - good chance of death, but potentially doable - but the danger can be waved away by dealing with the traitor who demands a bag of gold and a pardon for past misdeeds... the paladin might choose to take the deal. But if he does so, I'd consider it extremely dishonorable of him to then cut the traitor down once they were inside the stronghold. If he doesn't, he takes his chances with the guards.</p><p></p><p>The no-win situation isn't a fair one to put before the players when there's a paladin in the party. Essentially, you've said "This adventure is impossible for the paladin to get through".</p><p></p><p>The other two options? I don't think there's anything wrong with presenting those situations to a paladin.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3672569, member: 1656"] I think there's a difference between "Making an agreement with this creature may provide some advantage", and "Making an agreement with this creature is necessary to proceed with the adventure". If the enemy stronghold is literally impenetrable - it's guaranteed that you will be detected and killed if you try to get in - and the only way to circumvent this is to deal with the traitor who demands a virgin sacrifice before he'll cooperate, it's a no-win situation for the paladin. If the enemy stronghold is formidable - good chance of death, but potentially doable - but the danger can be waved away by dealing with the traitor who demands a virgin sacrifice before he'll cooperate, the paladin can certainly refuse to deal, preferring the risky but morally-less-repugnant option. If the enemy stronghold is formidable - good chance of death, but potentially doable - but the danger can be waved away by dealing with the traitor who demands a bag of gold and a pardon for past misdeeds... the paladin might choose to take the deal. But if he does so, I'd consider it extremely dishonorable of him to then cut the traitor down once they were inside the stronghold. If he doesn't, he takes his chances with the guards. The no-win situation isn't a fair one to put before the players when there's a paladin in the party. Essentially, you've said "This adventure is impossible for the paladin to get through". The other two options? I don't think there's anything wrong with presenting those situations to a paladin. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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