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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3674421" data-attributes="member: 29014">I knew this would make some people expect a fall <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Well, even the Miracle indicated that there was no other way to stop Orcus's plan.&nbsp; Now, it is possible for Sir Pelinor to let all mortals in his world die while he waits on another plane and then swoop in to try to kill Orcus after Orcus arises from the Deathwell.&nbsp; Would that be okay for a Paladin to do?I also find&nbsp; a presumption that is quite presumptuous.&nbsp; I made the scenario.&nbsp; Let's say Sir Pelinor worships Mayaheine, goddess of Paladins in Greyhawk and a very minor deity.&nbsp; She is quite clearly less powerful than all the evil in the world.&nbsp; In fact, depending on how you play Orcus's power level in your campaign, she is possibly less powerful than Orcus.But here's the one I really want to play with Okay, let's say Anyiel agrees to undergo powerful truth-detection magic.&nbsp; The result is that she is not lying or setting up some other scheme.&nbsp; She really does just want to have dinner with the Paladin, mostly because she'd like to see Orcus's plan thwarted and she is attracted to Lawful Good paragon of good sorts and thinks the Paladin is cute.&nbsp; There is nothing else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3674421, member: 29014"] I knew this would make some people expect a fall ;) Well, even the Miracle indicated that there was no other way to stop Orcus's plan. Now, it is possible for Sir Pelinor to let all mortals in his world die while he waits on another plane and then swoop in to try to kill Orcus after Orcus arises from the Deathwell. Would that be okay for a Paladin to do? I also find a presumption that is quite presumptuous. I made the scenario. Let's say Sir Pelinor worships Mayaheine, goddess of Paladins in Greyhawk and a very minor deity. She is quite clearly less powerful than all the evil in the world. In fact, depending on how you play Orcus's power level in your campaign, she is possibly less powerful than Orcus. But here's the one I really want to play with Okay, let's say Anyiel agrees to undergo powerful truth-detection magic. The result is that she is not lying or setting up some other scheme. She really does just want to have dinner with the Paladin, mostly because she'd like to see Orcus's plan thwarted and she is attracted to Lawful Good paragon of good sorts and thinks the Paladin is cute. There is nothing else. [/QUOTE]

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