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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3674711" data-attributes="member: 29014">I actually already said that, but it might have been confusing because of the (a) and (b) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; To wit, they tempt innocents only so they can become non-innocents, go to Baator, and be tortured.&nbsp; This helps in the Blood War.But since any given devil may never be a threat to innocents, and certainly not a threat right now, whereas Orcus is indeed a threat, I maintain that the dinner could not be a violation by the 'threat to innocents' clause, and if a particularly nasty GM somehow made it a violation, then not having dinner with Anyiel must also be a violation.&nbsp; Besides, if the 'threat to innocents' clause includes preventing hypothetical and unspecified threats, then the Paladin would be in serious trouble whenever she did anything that wasn't the equivalent to Plane Shifting onto a Lower Plane with a Contingency of some sort to return her body when she was knocked out and then killing as many fiends as possible before the Contingency hits.&nbsp; After all, if he doesn't do that, he's leaving those fiends alive, right?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3674711, member: 29014"] I actually already said that, but it might have been confusing because of the (a) and (b) ;) To wit, they tempt innocents only so they can become non-innocents, go to Baator, and be tortured. This helps in the Blood War. But since any given devil may never be a threat to innocents, and certainly not a threat right now, whereas Orcus is indeed a threat, I maintain that the dinner could not be a violation by the 'threat to innocents' clause, and if a particularly nasty GM somehow made it a violation, then not having dinner with Anyiel must also be a violation. Besides, if the 'threat to innocents' clause includes preventing hypothetical and unspecified threats, then the Paladin would be in serious trouble whenever she did anything that wasn't the equivalent to Plane Shifting onto a Lower Plane with a Contingency of some sort to return her body when she was knocked out and then killing as many fiends as possible before the Contingency hits. After all, if he doesn't do that, he's leaving those fiends alive, right? [/QUOTE]

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