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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 3681339" data-attributes="member: 8439"><p>Heh. The point of the example, which Hawken either missed or just choose to ignore, is that most of the "options" stated were not options. The low price cruise was offered (we will call this "the agreement made") under a specific condition, which was sharing a room with an unknown person to be revealed upon check-in (we will call this "the ambiguity"). While in this particular example the cruiser has the single alternative of walking off the boat before it sails, generally, if the roommate turns out to be your college ex ("revealing the ambiguous point"), you can't say "This agreement is void, I would never agree to room with him/her/it!" Because you agreed to room with ANYONE, and by the very nature of the offer (that explicit ambiguity) reasonably could have guessed it wasn't gonna be Fabio in there.... </p><p></p><p>Now, if the offer was "If you agree to room with the person shown here" and showed you a picture with your old college buddy who you haven't seen in years but parted on very friendly terms with... and then it's the Ex when you check in and they say "no look, he/she/it was in the picture, you can see the back of the head through the window!" That is a deception. You made the agreement not in a state of ambiguity, but under a deliberately formed wrong impression, and have in fact been truely tricked.</p><p></p><p>(in neither case should you kill the Ex (unless it's <strong>that Ex</strong>*), but one allows you to void the contract and sue for the money and time spent, because there actually was deception involved.)</p><p></p><p>*I kid, I kid....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 3681339, member: 8439"] Heh. The point of the example, which Hawken either missed or just choose to ignore, is that most of the "options" stated were not options. The low price cruise was offered (we will call this "the agreement made") under a specific condition, which was sharing a room with an unknown person to be revealed upon check-in (we will call this "the ambiguity"). While in this particular example the cruiser has the single alternative of walking off the boat before it sails, generally, if the roommate turns out to be your college ex ("revealing the ambiguous point"), you can't say "This agreement is void, I would never agree to room with him/her/it!" Because you agreed to room with ANYONE, and by the very nature of the offer (that explicit ambiguity) reasonably could have guessed it wasn't gonna be Fabio in there.... Now, if the offer was "If you agree to room with the person shown here" and showed you a picture with your old college buddy who you haven't seen in years but parted on very friendly terms with... and then it's the Ex when you check in and they say "no look, he/she/it was in the picture, you can see the back of the head through the window!" That is a deception. You made the agreement not in a state of ambiguity, but under a deliberately formed wrong impression, and have in fact been truely tricked. (in neither case should you kill the Ex (unless it's [b]that Ex[/b]*), but one allows you to void the contract and sue for the money and time spent, because there actually was deception involved.) *I kid, I kid.... [/QUOTE]
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