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<blockquote data-quote="SlagMortar" data-source="post: 3683124" data-attributes="member: 24821">I bolded the part that is a fundamental difference in this conversation.&nbsp; I think IanB, Arkhandus, myself, and some others would say &quot;This is true for humans (or sentients without an alignment subtype if you prefer) only.&quot;&nbsp; It is not true for fiends.I think this is spot on.&nbsp; I think it can be resolved in two ways.&nbsp; Having a long talk with a bunch of scenarios before ever starting the campaign so the DM and player reach an understanding.&nbsp; Or forging ahead with the campaign with the DM realizing that putting the paladin in an ambiguous situation may result in the DM wanting to revoke the paladin's status - which may make the player decide screw it, I'm going blackguard - or the player deciding the paladin has become disillusioned with his diety's low standards as he repeatedly makes what he feels are infractions that are not punished by so much as a bad dream.&nbsp; A paladin's behavior may seem more predictable than another class, but in fact it probably isn't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SlagMortar, post: 3683124, member: 24821"] I bolded the part that is a fundamental difference in this conversation. I think IanB, Arkhandus, myself, and some others would say "This is true for humans (or sentients without an alignment subtype if you prefer) [B]only[/B]." It is not true for fiends. I think this is spot on. I think it can be resolved in two ways. Having a long talk with a bunch of scenarios before ever starting the campaign so the DM and player reach an understanding. Or forging ahead with the campaign with the DM realizing that putting the paladin in an ambiguous situation may result in the DM wanting to revoke the paladin's status - which may make the player decide screw it, I'm going blackguard - or the player deciding the paladin has become disillusioned with his diety's low standards as he repeatedly makes what he feels are infractions that are not punished by so much as a bad dream. A paladin's behavior may seem more predictable than another class, but in fact it probably isn't. [/QUOTE]

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