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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8251224" data-attributes="member: 6704184">Yeah you play a different game from any I’ve seen irl. You often have 4 crossbows in your pack? It’s a no-concentration spell that you can set up before a fight, and it just works, no further fuss required. While you’re dealing full warrior class damage on top of it. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />Hail of Thorns doesn’t deal 1d10 in a 5ft radius, it deals that on top of an attack action.Concentration doesn’t downgrade the spell, all spells that add to an attack as part of the spell do.You seem to be comparing ranger spells to full caster spells, rather than the result of a turn of actions of a ranger against the result of a turn of actions of a full caster. This will lead to false results, because it isn’t a valid comparison.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8251224, member: 6704184"] Yeah you play a different game from any I’ve seen irl. You often have 4 crossbows in your pack? It’s a no-concentration spell that you can set up before a fight, and it just works, no further fuss required. While you’re dealing full warrior class damage on top of it. 🤷‍♂️ Hail of Thorns doesn’t deal 1d10 in a 5ft radius, it deals that on top of an attack action. Concentration doesn’t downgrade the spell, [I]all[/I] spells that add to an attack as part of the spell do. You seem to be comparing ranger spells to full caster spells, rather than the result of a turn of actions of a ranger against the result of a turn of actions of a full caster. This will lead to false results, because it isn’t a valid comparison. [/QUOTE]

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