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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 8252952" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>Sure. Conducting it as a ritual is fine....But we need to dictate how often they can use rituals. They are rangers. They "know how" to conduct a few rituals. But I wouldn't necessarily give them free reign to spend all day working whatever rituals they have. </p><p></p><p>How does ritual casting work for 5e, actually. I haven't played it in a while...and I don't recall anyone using rituals in my last 5e game. Is it a things "known" or accumulated?... or just you say "I spend this on special materials and take this much time and <em>POOF</em>" anything with a ritual tag is fair game? </p><p></p><p>I'd definitely make it something Rangers accumulate...knowing certain (useful for them) rituals. SO, with the initial "ritual user" feature for the Ranger would include "Primeval Awareness" as one of their later "Rangers only" special rituals. </p><p></p><p>Yes, so some things need to be decided: What comes out to make space for these new things we're talking about? What is so integral that it can be kept, but moved to later levels? What is so integral it really can't be pushed back? </p><p></p><p>My take on the Rangers, as a skillful, "movement and stealth," kind of warrior makes Land Stride and Vanish both more needed at the front load of the class. If we're moving Primeval Awareness to a ritual they can do, then Landstride slips in at 3rd level rather perfectly.</p><p></p><p>Well, I mean...Favored Terrain is a primary feature of the class. It doesn't make any narrative/lore sense for the class that one would, say, take Aberrations as a favored enemy when there are no Aberrations native to your favored terrain. I"m going to take Celestials as a favored enemy...with my favored terrain being Subterranean. I mean, it's the kind of thing, I think [hope], people just do without thinking. But it's not actually stipulated in the feature description.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I think you just literally say, in the feature description, or build it into Favored Terrain, that the creature types you choose for your favored enemies <em>must</em> be creatures found in your favored terrain. At least until the upper level options. I think your top terrain choice is at 10th level, the other at 6th? So, I would make it a minimum of 6th level before permitting things like Celestials, Fiends,...maybe Elementals...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure thing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 8252952, member: 92511"] Sure. Conducting it as a ritual is fine....But we need to dictate how often they can use rituals. They are rangers. They "know how" to conduct a few rituals. But I wouldn't necessarily give them free reign to spend all day working whatever rituals they have. How does ritual casting work for 5e, actually. I haven't played it in a while...and I don't recall anyone using rituals in my last 5e game. Is it a things "known" or accumulated?... or just you say "I spend this on special materials and take this much time and [I]POOF[/I]" anything with a ritual tag is fair game? I'd definitely make it something Rangers accumulate...knowing certain (useful for them) rituals. SO, with the initial "ritual user" feature for the Ranger would include "Primeval Awareness" as one of their later "Rangers only" special rituals. Yes, so some things need to be decided: What comes out to make space for these new things we're talking about? What is so integral that it can be kept, but moved to later levels? What is so integral it really can't be pushed back? My take on the Rangers, as a skillful, "movement and stealth," kind of warrior makes Land Stride and Vanish both more needed at the front load of the class. If we're moving Primeval Awareness to a ritual they can do, then Landstride slips in at 3rd level rather perfectly. Well, I mean...Favored Terrain is a primary feature of the class. It doesn't make any narrative/lore sense for the class that one would, say, take Aberrations as a favored enemy when there are no Aberrations native to your favored terrain. I"m going to take Celestials as a favored enemy...with my favored terrain being Subterranean. I mean, it's the kind of thing, I think [hope], people just do without thinking. But it's not actually stipulated in the feature description. I mean, I think you just literally say, in the feature description, or build it into Favored Terrain, that the creature types you choose for your favored enemies [I]must[/I] be creatures found in your favored terrain. At least until the upper level options. I think your top terrain choice is at 10th level, the other at 6th? So, I would make it a minimum of 6th level before permitting things like Celestials, Fiends,...maybe Elementals... Sure thing. :) [/QUOTE]
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